yep, its almost 2025, tons of options for inbound/outbound. I just like the
dialin so no busines sbuttdials or drunk dials occur

For texting, I hate it many people send messages to both numbers, so i have
to ignore two texts instead of 1 now

On Mon, Dec 30, 2024 at 10:55 AM Ken Hohhof <khoh...@kwom.com> wrote:

> For the company telephone number issue, shouldn’t it be possible to give
> them a softphone app?  Assumes your office phone system is VoIP and they
> have Internet access from their phone where they are working.
>
>
>
> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
> *Sent:* Monday, December 30, 2024 9:39 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] company cell phones
>
>
>
> Ive carried 2 phones for 15 years.
>
> I hate it
>
>
>
> My biggest issue is the company telephone number. I thought about going
> dual sim, but meh.
>
> Just pay their personal bill, or offer a stipend. If you need them calling
> out as the company, give them a redirect in your phone system and forward
> their extension to their cell.
>
>
>
> There is no data being accessed in 2024 on a mobile device that is secure,
> dont pretend there is. If theyre going to exfiltrate your data,
> theyre going to do it, regardless of whos phone it is. If theyre going to
> get "hacked" theyre going to do it, regardless of whos phone it is.
>
>
>
> Providing a phone is just giving them one other thing to break. And its
> just one more thing to have to recover when you shitcan them. and its just
> one more thing to keep charged, an you know for a fact their wife or kid
> took the charger because tiktok drained their battery.
>
>
>
> If they dont want to be tracked, fuckem and fire them if they
> wont accept the fact that they dont matter enough to track in their
> personal time.
>
>
>
> Matter of fact, just hit them with a pipe, save a whole lot of headache
> and cell expense.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 30, 2024 at 8:42 AM Ken Hohhof <khoh...@kwom.com> wrote:
>
> Is running out of minutes still a thing?
>
>
>
> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *David Hannum
> *Sent:* Monday, December 30, 2024 8:11 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] company cell phones
>
>
>
> We supplement $10/mo. to each employee who uses their phone for company
> work (field techs, etc).  As a result, if they ever run out of minutes, it
> bites them at review time.  We've had very little issue.
>
>
>
> Dave
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 30, 2024 at 8:33 AM Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
> wrote:
>
> It's not their entire device, but there are requirements like the
> password/pin/face unlock/etc.
>
>
>
> Think of it this way: start with a personal phone and then slap on a "work
> expansion card".  When appropriate you rip out that expansion card, leaving
> them with their personal stuff.
>
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 29, 2024 at 3:13 PM Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
>
> Your employees allow and you'd want control over their personal devices?
>
>
>
> -----
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>
> Midwest Internet Exchange
>
> The Brothers WISP
>
>
>
> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>
> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
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>
>
>
> *From: *"Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com>
> *Sent: *Sunday, December 29, 2024 10:00:40 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] company cell phones
> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>
> Google Workspace at minimum requires a code to access the device (pin,
> fingerprint, etc.)  Yon can require 2fa.  Once the device is auth'ed the
> admin has control over the workspace account (in our case anything at
> imaginenetworksllc.com) <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>
>   <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
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>
> https://apps.google.com/supportwidget/articlehome?hl=en&article_url=https%3A%2F%2Fsupport.google.com%2Fa%2Fanswer%2F6328679%3Fhl%3Den&assistant_event=welcome&assistant_id=mdmbot&product_context=6328679&product_name=UnuFlow&trigger_context=a
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>
> On Sun, Dec 29, 2024 at 9:14 AM Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>
> Part of data security also is about device compliance. Is there a pin? Is
> it rooted? Are there vulnerable applications installed? etc.
> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>
>
>
> -----
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>
> Midwest Internet Exchange
>
> The Brothers WISP
>
>
>
> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
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>
> *From: *"Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com>
> *Sent: *Saturday, December 28, 2024 4:50:03 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] company cell phones
> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>
> Using Google stuff here, any of the "work profile" or "G Suite account"
> data gets wiped if it ever reaches connectivity.  Doesn't prevent any local
> cache from getting read, but you have to draw the line somewhere.
>
> Not like a company provided phone would prevent theft.
> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>
>   <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>
> On Sat, Dec 28, 2024 at 3:30 PM Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>
> How do you handle data security with personal phones?
> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>
>
>
> -----
> Mike Hammett
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>
> Midwest Internet Exchange
>
> The Brothers WISP
>
>
>
> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>
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>
>
> *From: *"Tyson Burris" <t...@franklinisp.net>
> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com>
> *Sent: *Saturday, December 28, 2024 2:14:55 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] company cell phones
> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>
> My 2 Cents: <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>
>   <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>
> Don’t waste your time or money.  The excuses still come.  You have some
> who are all for it, others who will carry two phones, and even those who
> want no part of it and want ‘control’. <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>
> I stopped doing it a couple years ago.  Saves the company a lot of money.
> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>
>   <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
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>   <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
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> *Tyson Burris*
> *President & CEO*
>
>
>
> Internet Communications Inc (ICI)
>
> 739 Commerce Dr. Franklin, IN 46131
>
>
>
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> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *ch...@go-mtc.com
> *Sent:* Saturday, December 28, 2024 12:40 PM
> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] company cell phones <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
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> I have about 25 employees.  Thinking of giving them all a company cell
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