Same. Atheral switch + Zoiper (free) because the Netsapiens app went to shit recently.
On Mon, Dec 30, 2024 at 2:23 PM David Hannum <dhan...@mynewera.net> wrote: > We actually use our VoIP app. This allows for outgoing calls to appear > that they come from our office and it protects the employee from exposing > their personal number to customers. > > Dave > > On Mon, Dec 30, 2024 at 12:36 PM Ken Hohhof <khoh...@kwom.com> wrote: > >> I find the last thing employees or 1099 contractors want is for customers >> to start calling or texting their personal phone numbers. They will call >> me at the office and have me call the customer, otherwise the customer will >> save their cellphone number and never call the office again. >> >> >> >> Also seems like it would open up a couple scenarios, maybe the first one >> doesn’t bother you, the second one probably does. Scenario #1 – customer >> calls employee about a side job like wiring up a security camera and >> employee does it on their own time and gets paid directly. Scenario #2 – >> employee leaves or gets fired, and takes your customers with him to his >> next employer. >> >> >> >> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones >> *Sent:* Monday, December 30, 2024 11:13 AM >> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] company cell phones >> >> >> >> yep, its almost 2025, tons of options for inbound/outbound. I just like >> the dialin so no busines sbuttdials or drunk dials occur >> >> >> >> For texting, I hate it many people send messages to both numbers, so i >> have to ignore two texts instead of 1 now >> >> >> >> On Mon, Dec 30, 2024 at 10:55 AM Ken Hohhof <khoh...@kwom.com> wrote: >> >> For the company telephone number issue, shouldn’t it be possible to give >> them a softphone app? Assumes your office phone system is VoIP and they >> have Internet access from their phone where they are working. >> >> >> >> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones >> *Sent:* Monday, December 30, 2024 9:39 AM >> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] company cell phones >> >> >> >> Ive carried 2 phones for 15 years. >> >> I hate it >> >> >> >> My biggest issue is the company telephone number. I thought about going >> dual sim, but meh. >> >> Just pay their personal bill, or offer a stipend. If you need them >> calling out as the company, give them a redirect in your phone system and >> forward their extension to their cell. >> >> >> >> There is no data being accessed in 2024 on a mobile device that is >> secure, dont pretend there is. If theyre going to exfiltrate your data, >> theyre going to do it, regardless of whos phone it is. If theyre going to >> get "hacked" theyre going to do it, regardless of whos phone it is. >> >> >> >> Providing a phone is just giving them one other thing to break. And its >> just one more thing to have to recover when you shitcan them. and its just >> one more thing to keep charged, an you know for a fact their wife or kid >> took the charger because tiktok drained their battery. >> >> >> >> If they dont want to be tracked, fuckem and fire them if they >> wont accept the fact that they dont matter enough to track in their >> personal time. >> >> >> >> Matter of fact, just hit them with a pipe, save a whole lot of headache >> and cell expense. >> >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Dec 30, 2024 at 8:42 AM Ken Hohhof <khoh...@kwom.com> wrote: >> >> Is running out of minutes still a thing? >> >> >> >> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *David Hannum >> *Sent:* Monday, December 30, 2024 8:11 AM >> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] company cell phones >> >> >> >> We supplement $10/mo. to each employee who uses their phone for company >> work (field techs, etc). As a result, if they ever run out of minutes, it >> bites them at review time. We've had very little issue. >> >> >> >> Dave >> >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Dec 30, 2024 at 8:33 AM Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> >> wrote: >> >> It's not their entire device, but there are requirements like the >> password/pin/face unlock/etc. >> >> >> >> Think of it this way: start with a personal phone and then slap on a >> "work expansion card". When appropriate you rip out that expansion card, >> leaving them with their personal stuff. >> >> >> >> On Sun, Dec 29, 2024 at 3:13 PM Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote: >> >> Your employees allow and you'd want control over their personal devices? >> >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >> >> Midwest Internet Exchange >> >> The Brothers WISP >> >> >> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> ------------------------------ >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> >> >> >> >> >> *From: *"Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> >> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com> >> *Sent: *Sunday, December 29, 2024 10:00:40 AM >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] company cell phones >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> >> Google Workspace at minimum requires a code to access the device (pin, >> fingerprint, etc.) Yon can require 2fa. Once the device is auth'ed the >> admin has control over the workspace account (in our case anything at >> imaginenetworksllc.com) <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> >> >> https://apps.google.com/supportwidget/articlehome?hl=en&article_url=https%3A%2F%2Fsupport.google.com%2Fa%2Fanswer%2F6328679%3Fhl%3Den&assistant_event=welcome&assistant_id=mdmbot&product_context=6328679&product_name=UnuFlow&trigger_context=a >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> >> On Sun, Dec 29, 2024 at 9:14 AM Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote: >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> >> Part of data security also is about device compliance. Is there a pin? Is >> it rooted? Are there vulnerable applications installed? etc. >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions >> >> Midwest Internet Exchange >> >> The Brothers WISP >> >> >> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> ------------------------------ >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> >> >> >> >> >> *From: *"Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> >> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com> >> *Sent: *Saturday, December 28, 2024 4:50:03 PM >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] company cell phones >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> >> Using Google stuff here, any of the "work profile" or "G Suite account" >> data gets wiped if it ever reaches connectivity. Doesn't prevent any local >> cache from getting read, but you have to draw the line somewhere. >> >> Not like a company provided phone would prevent theft. >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> >> On Sat, Dec 28, 2024 at 3:30 PM Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote: >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> >> How do you handle data security with personal phones? >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions >> >> Midwest Internet Exchange >> >> The Brothers WISP >> >> >> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> ------------------------------ >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> >> >> >> >> >> *From: *"Tyson Burris" <t...@franklinisp.net> >> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com> >> *Sent: *Saturday, December 28, 2024 2:14:55 PM >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] company cell phones >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> >> My 2 Cents: <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> >> Don’t waste your time or money. The excuses still come. You have some >> who are all for it, others who will carry two phones, and even those who >> want no part of it and want ‘control’. <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> >> I stopped doing it a couple years ago. Saves the company a lot of money. >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> >> *Tyson Burris* >> *President & CEO* >> >> >> >> Internet Communications Inc (ICI) >> >> 739 Commerce Dr. Franklin, IN 46131 >> >> >> >> [image: Mobile mobile-icon]317-412-1540 (emergency/after-hours) >> [image: phone phone-icon]317-738-0320 (office) >> [image: Email email-icon] *t...@franklinisp.net <t...@franklinisp.net>* >> [image: website website-icon] *www.surfici.net <http://www.surfici.net>* >> >> >> >> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> >> *Fixed Wireless Broadband - PtP/PtMP Solutions – Indoor/Oudoor Wifi - IP >> Cameras - Fiber – MDUs * <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> >> *Active Member To The Following**:* <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> >> WISPA <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> >> NBBC <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> >> Confidentiality Notice: <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> >> This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and >> intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are >> addressed. 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