Loving this thread '*L*earning *E*verthing *N*eeded about *T*eslas'

Seems lots of people here have Teslas.  How does billing at the Supercharger actually work?  I read through the website, and the back-of-the-napkin math I ran seemed that charging at a supercharger was about the equivalent of a tank of gas.  ~$40-$50 (I have a small car).  Is that accurate?

On 5/27/2022 9:04 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
Tap the Climate Controls settings screen > turn on Preconditioning in settings > select 'Schedule' to set a daily time when you want to be ready to drive.

There's also a great API to control your car from anywhere (as long as it has connectivity).

On Fri, May 27, 2022 at 9:44 AM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com> wrote:

    Can you schedule the climate control to turn on?  I like that my
    Leaf will start the AC or heat a half hour before my normal drive
    times.

    Sent from my iPhone

    On May 26, 2022, at 8:26 PM, Robert <i...@avantwireless.com> wrote:

     Tesla recommends plugging in.   You can set how full it will
    charge to with the phone app, but the LFP batteries you are
    getting will let you leave that at 100% without impacting
    performance of the batteries.   You will like the phone app it
    has a lot of features.   I figured out that you can create an
    email alias and have both your and your wifes phone use that to
    log in with full features instead of having a superior and
    inferior account.

    On 5/26/22 2:31 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
    With the Leaf, I have always plugged it in when I got to work,
    or in one case where I had a long commute, both at work and at
    home.  Never had a battery problem.  Except during really cold
    weather but all Leafs have that problem.
    Looking forward to the heated battery.  Not understanding if I
    should not charge the Tesla every day as my daily commute is
    about 14 miles RT.  I like having it topped up every day so that
    I can go wherever I want.  But if that is hard on the battery I
    will have to change the way I charge.
    *From:* Darin Steffl
    *Sent:* Thursday, May 26, 2022 3:11 PM
    *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
    *Cc:* Chuck McCown
    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] LENT
    If you're not looking at the exterior with a microscope, you'll
    be VERY happy with your M3 over the Leaf. It's faster, more
    range, bigger, and more fun. The infotainment is awesome too.
    Let us know your review of the car once you get it. Their
    charger network is the largest in the world too so road trips
    are quite easy even with lower range. You have the smaller
    battery in that model so charge time will be under 20 minutes to
    add 70-80% of the total capacity on each charge. You should not
    charge to 100% unless you absolutely need that range to get to
    the next charger. I recommend only charging to 80% on road trips
    to keep the charge times down. Like any battery, the charge rate
    decreases the closer you get to 100%. It drops pretty quick
    after 80% so trips can be made faster if you charge from 10% to
    80% than if you charge from 40% to 100% for example.
    For your daily charging at home, they recommend no more than 90%
    full to maintain the range of your battery. If you charge more
    than that, plan on driving the car within a couple hours so your
    car doesn't sit charged above 90% for an extended period of time.
    But if you ordered the RWD small battery version, I think you
    get the LFP battery which means you can charge to 100% with no
    concerns about hurting the battery. The link below will help you
    determine if you have the LFP battery. If you do, you can charge
    to 100% at home but you do not need to do so on road trips using
    superchargers because it takes too long to hit 100%. Just charge
    until you have enough range to reach your next stop or
    destination. Also download Plugshare and you can find Level 2
    chargers all around the country that aren't listed in the Tesla
    map. Many are free so you can find spots like restaurants or
    hotels that offer free charging.
    
https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/model3/en_jo/GUID-7FE78D73-0A17-47C4-B21B-54F641FFAEF4.html
    On Thu, May 26, 2022 at 2:43 PM Chuck McCown via AF
    <af@af.afmug.com> wrote:

        I am not terribly anal for fit and finish issues.  A car is
        a tool, not a trophy.  It is an expense, not an investment. 
        A tesla is an extravagance, not a need.  But I sure hate
        buying gasoline, so since my Leaf lease is expiring I needed
        to get something.  I am buying this and I bought an airplane
        once.  Only two times I have bought something I didn’t
        really need.
        *From:* Bill Prince
        *Sent:* Thursday, May 26, 2022 11:42 AM
        *To:* af@af.afmug.com
        *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] LENT

        Tesla's in general do not have a stellar reputation for
        "reliability" or build quality. That said, the M3 scores
        high, followed relatively closely by the MY. The two share
        80% of their components.

        If you drill down on the reliability complaints, it is often
        to do with niggling little things like door handles and
        retracting rear view mirrors and the like. The MX is
        horrible for the X-wing doors. There are also on-and-off
        issues with build quality (except for the ones made in
        China). They have been getting steadily better, and the
        really new ones I've seen look almost perfect WRT fit and
        finish.

        bp
        <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

        On 5/26/2022 10:11 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
        Is this coming from a Tesla owner?
        Tesla owners I know don’t say anything bad about the car or
        company.
        *From:* Ryan Ray
        *Sent:* Thursday, May 26, 2022 10:45 AM
        *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
        *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] LENT
        Are you not concerned at all regarding build quality or
        longevity with a company that hasn't been forthright about
        existing issues, poor warranty experiences, and don't seem
        to generally care about their customer service or customer
        in general?
        On Wed, May 25, 2022 at 5:47 PM Chuck McCown via AF
        <af@af.afmug.com> wrote:

            I am starting to have second thoughts, maybe try to buy
            a used one... I have some time to cancel this order... 
            I am a cheap bugger. This might be the last car I ever
            buy, so maybe I do want the new one?
            *From:* Robert
            *Sent:* Wednesday, May 25, 2022 6:28 PM
            *To:* af@af.afmug.com
            *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] LENT
            We will be coming on the end of our Model 3 lease in
            September, which, after so many delivery date changes (
            one of which would have been three months ago! )
            corresponds to the delivery date of the Model Y.
            Getting into and out of the 3 was just too much for
            these knees, which are now being replaced.   We have
            really enjoyed all of the Model 3 features and I think
            the full autopilot is just another Musk Troll that
            fanboys are willing to throw money at.   I am seriously
            tempted to flip it, if the prices for used stay this
            high.  $20K over our price would be hard to refuse,
            with the likely reduction in lead times in the next
            year or so as the factories ramp up.

            On 5/25/22 5:04 PM, Tim Hardy wrote:
            Glad that shit is over. You’ll be happy with your
            Tesla, our Model Y is is 2 years old today and its
            been a great experience. The wife’s car and I still
            have the gas guzzling 911!
            Peace out.
            On May 25, 2022, at 6:35 PM, Chuck McCown via AF
            <af@af.afmug.com> wrote:
            Model 3 They predict Sept to December delivery. $46K 
            375 mile range I think.  I really like the cruise
            control.  It does lane keeping so I really don’t see
            a use for an autopilot.
            *From:* Cassidy B. Larson
            *Sent:* Wednesday, May 25, 2022 4:31 PM
            *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
            *Cc:* Chuck McCown
            *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] LENT
            Which Tesla did you go for? What are they saying for
            lead time?

            On May 25, 2022, at 4:28 PM, Chuck McCown via AF
            <af@af.afmug.com> wrote:
            Sorry, I started it.
            Sometimes it is amusing to watch the Jaime and Steve
            show. Ken and Lewis used to join in too but they
            couldn’t take it anymore.  But we do have the OT in
            the subject line so you can filter this kind of crap
            out.
            But yeah, I think we have all vented now, and
            trolled the guys that need trolling. Steve and Jaime
            got to make their hyperbolic comments.
            So it is now dead until Lent is over. Next year’s lent.
            BTW everyone, I ordered a Tesla.  My 4th Leaf lease
            is coming due in July so I took the leap.  Did a
            test drive today and really loved it.  I loved the
            last 10 years of Leafs too but man this is a quantum
            leap of enjoyment.
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