On May 25, 2022, at 6:36 AM, Jaime Solorza
<losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:
Bullshit Steve...immigrants haven't been killing
children or people with assault weapons...they come here
for a better life...
You don't live near the border...
You see things through a tunnel vision created by
xenophobic racist assholes...
I have been to Uvalde many times for work and
pleasure...as a grandfather of 16 school age children
this hit me very hard...
Fuck guns, fuck Trump, fuck Abbott, fuck Cruz, fuck NRA,
fuck GOP, pro life my ass..
On Tue, May 24, 2022, 11:59 PM Steve Jones
<thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
No country that enacted these controls already had
the volume of firearms we have presently. Comparing
apples and turtles. Ban them and you have nothing
but illegal weapons. We have a porous border that
democrats fight very hard to ensure whole people can
get across. Ban guns and see how that turns out.
Disarm real people and every city and town will be
Compton USA. Stop the hugathug campaigns and the
shootings will be less.
You folks are only upset because some white kids may
have been shot. You dont care that more kids of
color are killed annually in here and there
shootings. Get off the big ticket outrage bandwagon,
its dispicable.
On Wed, May 25, 2022, 12:01 AM Darin Steffl
<darin.ste...@mnwifi.com> wrote:
Stricter gun laws absolutely help reduce
violence. Look at every other country in the
world and how much less gun violence they have.
Making guns harder to buy reduces the supply
available to criminals. Every gun a criminal
has/had was at some point sold legally.
Requiring universal background checks means no
more private sales without a background check.
Gun shows and private party sales don't require
checks today when they should.
If background checks are required for any sale
or gift of a firearm, this means sellers will be
liable if the firearm they sold/gifted is used
to commit a crime if they didn't do a background
check. Hold people accountable who put guns into
the hands of bad people. If a child uses a
parent's gun to commit a crime, charge the
parent for something serious. Send a message
that guns are serious and dangerous in the wrong
hands. People will lock up their guns and be way
more careful about who they sell or gift them to
if they are liable for crimes committed using
their firearm.
Can't you see how these measures will reduce the
supply of legal guns going to criminals and
mentally unstable people? Again, look at every
other country that has either gun bans or strict
gun control and their statistics clearly show
that they have less gun violence per capita. If
it works everywhere else, it WILL work here.
Red flag laws and revokation of gun ownership
should be passed too so if someone becomes
mentally unstable and starts posting about
threats or violence they want to cause, the
sheriff should be able to sieze their guns until
they have a psych eval and can prove they're
sane enough to get their guns back.
This is a stupid saying: the only way to stop a
bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun.
The best way to stop a bad guy with a gun is to
make sure they never have access to a gun to
begin with. There's multiple reasons why arming
more people is a bad idea. There's too many
cooks in the kitchen then. Say you're in Texas
at church where many people carry. Someone
decides to start killing people in church so 20
"good guys" with guns pull out their pistol and
have to decide who the bad guy is... How many
good guys end up getting shot by other good
guys? The answer is quite a few. You don't
always know who the bad guy with a gun is if all
the good guys with guns draw at the same time.
You could be shot by other good guys or cops on
accident. Worse yet would be shooting innocent
bystanders because there's a 20 person firefight
happening in church.
The solution goes back to people having fewer
guns and America getting rid of their obsession
with guns. Keep them for hunting but don't make
guns a personality trait. The people who take
family Christmas card pictures all holding guns
is embarrassing as hell. Like can't you just own
guns and be private about it instead of acting
all Macho and worshiping your weapons?!
FYI, I am a gun owner and have a permit to
carry. I do not carry but have the ability to. I
have several pistols and some hunting rifles and
shotguns. I have no desire for an assault rifle
and don't see the need for others to want them
either. I think it should be much harder to buy
a gun and I support that.
The solution to gun violence is not to hire more
armed guards and police officers to patrol
schools and other public places. All that does
is cost tons of money and doesn't prevent a bad
guy from shooting up a place. It may only reduce
the response time to take out the shooter. Think
20 steps before we get to the shooting.
Preventing access to guns is Step #1 in
preventing these mass shootings and requires no
extra money or armed guards.
Facts show these measures will work to reduce
gun violence. Opinions, thoughts and prayers do
nothing to stop gun violence. Supporting the gun
lobby does not help. Allowing politicians to
block all gun control legislation does not help.
Over 90% of Americans support universal
background checks yet the Republicans won't do a
damn thing to pass it.
I'll scream this until people hear it, the
Republicans are the obstructionist, pro-death
party. Their only platform is to say no to
democrats. They blocked bills to reduce the cost
on insulin, help increase supply of baby
formula, help reduce gas prices, etc. They
actively try to hurt the American people. They
take away human rights. They lie about science
and allow their supporters to die from covid by
spreading misinformation. They try to scare
their supports by putting the fear of God into
them with baseless claims of replacement theory,
war on God, indoctrination...
The party has become a joke. No spine and full
of cowards who won't stand up to hateful
rhetoric. A coup attempt on January 6 and the
party still spreads the big lie that trump won
when he clearly lost in the most secure election
in history. The party is becoming worthless and
the younger generation won't tolerate all the BS.
Democrat is the progressive party that cares
about all people and as long as we keep it
moderate and speak up about what we like and
don't like, they are likely to listen. Reach out
to your politicians and tell them what you want
them to do if you don't agree with their platform.
On Tue, May 24, 2022, 11:25 PM Jaime Solorza
<losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:
Fuck our piece of shit governor, Trumpabbott
and all his gun loving supporters...
Fuck his press release...
These pieces of shit...are supposed to be at
an NRA event next week
Trumputinsky, Trumpabbott and Ted Cancun
Cruzado...fuck them to hell
On Tue, May 24, 2022, 6:34 PM Darin Steffl
<darin.ste...@mnwifi.com> wrote:
18 more children shot and killed. Fuck
thoughts and prayers from the right.
These damn Republicans MUST agree to
some sort of sensible gun control.
Guns need to be hard to purchase, not
easy. Red flag laws need to be passed.
Background checks for any and all
purchases, no exceptions.
Another shooting, more dead children and
the Republicans want to do nothing.
They'll gladly keep letting Americans
die in order to keep gun nuts happy.
Something over 60% of Americans support
stricter gun control.
Republicans continue to be the pro-death
party. How embarrassing and shameful!!
If you vote republican, start reaching
out to your politicians and ask them to
fucking do something!! This is a goddamn
joke. These mass shootings only happen
in America.
I support if you're conservative but you
must voice your opinion if your party
keeps messing up. Tell them to take action!
On Mon, May 23, 2022, 2:40 PM
<dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
Figuratively inside the lines.
Color Within the Lines - Album by
Oscar Ortega | Spotify
*From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com>
*On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
*Sent:* Monday, May 23, 2022 1:56 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users
Group <af@af.afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT mildly
political
...you mean outside the lines?
On Mon, May 23, 2022 at 1:47 PM
<dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
NYDOT can be pretty
accommodating, but they
definitely have a lot of rules
and they do want you to color
inside the lines.
*From:* AF
<af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On
Behalf Of *Chuck McCown via AF
*Sent:* Monday, May 23, 2022 1:37 PM
*To:* af@af.afmug.com
*Cc:* Chuck McCown
<ch...@go-mtc.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT mildly
political
Once we had to cut a road with
an excavator. Then we had to do
compacted fill in lifts, the
asphalt on the top had to be
milled down on both sides so the
profile of the patch formed a T
shape. We used the hot sticky
apshalt oil in a sprayer to
spray down the T patch prior to
dumping hot mix on it and
compacting. The guy running the
sprayer was almost empty so he
sprayed some of the gravel on
the edges of the road surface in
the gravel empty his machine.
Not sure why he wanted to empty
it as normally they just shut
off the burner and pump and add
more the next day.
An inspector came out and made
us do defcon 1 full hazmat clean
up job where he emptied his
sprayer.
Then the next year they chip
sealed that road. That involves
laying down rock chips and
spraying the whole road and a
portion of the shoulder with the
exact same hot sticky asphalt
oil mix we got in trouble for
the year before. Same inspector
was there. I got out and asked
why UDOT can do it and we
cannot, is the UDOT hot asphalt
oil less hazardous. He told me
to get off his work site or I
would be arrested.
*From:*Bill Prince
*Sent:*Monday, May 23, 2022 9:56 AM
*To:*af@af.afmug.com
*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] OT mildly
political
but it's organic.
bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
On 5/23/2022 8:05 AM,
dmmoff...@gmail.com wrote:
“kile (with an I not a Y and
woke parents) doesn't
believe asphalt and concrete
are environmentally friendly”
Well an asphalt road is kind
of like a really long oil spill
*From:*AF
mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com
*On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
*Sent:* Saturday, May 21,
2022 2:35 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave
Users Group
mailto:af@af.afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT
mildly political
Most libertarians I know are
just crybabies. They want
the benefits of governance
without the costs. In a
libertarian society to have
a 100 mile road, you would
destroy your car every trip
because there would be no
single governing body to
maintain it in a consistent
manner. Sure we have road
issues now, but every
property line you cross
would be a new road. And if
john at mile 6 like
cobblestone, its
cobblestone, and you know
keith at mile 23 is gonna
charge a 42 dollar toll,
kile (with an I not a Y and
woke parents) doesn't
believe asphalt and concrete
are environmentally
friendly, so mile 36 is made
of soy and has long since
been eaten by animals, paul
at mile 52 is a dick and
stores all his nails on his
road, then Greg up at mile
99 he doesn't like people so
he put boulders across his mile.
These fools are just kid
brains who want no
government of someone
else's, they want their
government based on their
current whim. Most of their
arguments break down after a
little long term logic.
I also forgot to mention,
just like wiping your ass,
it's best to not push too
hard on a 2022 liberal,
you'll just end up pushing
through to a fingerful of shit.
On Fri, May 20, 2022, 12:53
PM Sean Heskett
<af...@zirkel.us> wrote:
Yeah the libertarian
platform I agree with,
the Koch brothers and
the (Ron/Rand) Paul
family are too far out
there in whackadoodle
land for me.
-Sean
On Fri, May 20, 2022 at
7:02 AM
<dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
I read the
Libertarian part
platform and thought
I could be on
board. I registered
as Libertarian and
carried the card in
my wallet.
…..and then I met
the other
libertarians. Some
I can relate with
and some others are
absolutely insane.
*From:*AF
<af-boun...@af.afmug.com>
*On Behalf Of *Jason
McKemie
*Sent:* Thursday,
May 19, 2022 6:47 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm
Microwave Users
Group <af@af.afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re:
[AFMUG] OT mildly
political
Yeah, the nutjobs
ruined that
designation. I used
to partially
identify as
libertarian, I don't
do that anymore.
On Thursday, May 19,
2022, Sean Heskett
<af...@zirkel.us> wrote:
Here in ColoRADo
voting
libertarian ends
up getting
people like
Lauren Bobert
elected lol :-/
On Thu, May 19,
2022 at 9:15 AM
Josh Luthman
<j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
wrote:
It's not a
throwaway
vote!!!!
You have to
vote
libertarian
if you want
a libertarian!
On Thu, May
19, 2022 at
11:06 AM
Sean Heskett
<af...@zirkel.us>
wrote:
<Say in
the
voice of
Mr.
Mackey
from
South Park>
Mmmkay
everyone,
all you
“woke”
people
are
tried
and
cranky,
y’all
need to
go back
to bed
and get
some rest.
-Sean
(For the
record
I’m
registered
independent
,
socially
liberal,
fiscally
conservative,
I would
vote
libertarian
if it
wasn’t a
throwaway
vote)
On Thu,
May 19,
2022 at
8:53 AM
Chuck
McCown
via AF
<af@af.afmug.com>
wrote:
Well,
maybe
their
thin
skin
needs
some
toughening
up.
Everyone
could
use
some
more
grit.
In
my
experience,
those
that
feel
compelled
to
“call
out”
people
never
affect
positive
change.
And
frequently
they
harm
themselves
in
the
trying.
Becoming
toxic
themselves
to
those
they
are
trying
to
shame/expose/coerce/educate/put
down.
What
good
does
it
do
to
tell
some
red
necked
construction
worker
that
he
is
being
racist?
I
just
avoid
those
with
views
I
abhor.
And
I
try
to
teach
by
example.
But
I
never
call
anyone
out.
At
work,
if
they
are
my
employee,
I
address
the
concern
in
private.
If
they
don’t
change
I
fire
them.
Social
justice
warriors
are
idiots
in
my
opinion.
They
invent
a
noble
cause
with
which
to
enshroud
themselves
while
acting
out
in
socially
impolitic
ways,
a
good
reason,
in
their
mind,
to
be
an
anarchist.
Look
at
antifa
and
proud
boys.
Exact
same
people,
doing
the
exact
same
things,
for
the
exact
same
reasons.
The
ONLY
difference
is
some
contrived
battle
line
they
are
trying
to
advance.
*From:*Cameron
Crum
*Sent:*Thursday,
May
19,
2022
7:42 AM
*To:*AnimalFarm
Microwave
Users
Group
*Subject:*Re:
[AFMUG]
OT
mildly
political
You
stirred
the
liberal
hornets
nest
now,
Chuck.
On
Thu,
May
19,
2022
at
7:51
AM
<dmmoff...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Weirdly
opposite
here.
My
brothers
are
vocally
alt-right.
All
ex-military,
all
purport
to
be
Christian.
One
is
dead
from
substance
abuse
and
suffered
a
variety
of
mental
health
issues.
The
surviving
two
are
always
broke,
angry,
and
unhappy.
I
feel
like
I
have
to
tiptoe
around
them
so
they
don’t
fly
off
the
handle
about
anything.
…..and
I’m
not
at
all
“woke”.
I
just
know
it’s
not
for
me
to
pass
judgement.
On
the
other
hand,
this
is
NY.
Maybe
they
feel
like
they’re
the
rebels
fighting
the
evil
liberal
death
star.
Maybe
your
kids
in
Utah
feel
like
they’re
the
rebels
fighting
the
evil
Republican
death
star.
*From:*AF
<af-boun...@af.afmug.com>
*On
Behalf
Of
*Chuck
McCown
via
AF
*Sent:*
Wednesday,
May
18,
2022
6:11
PM
*To:*
af@af.afmug.com
*Cc:*
Chuck
McCown
<ch...@go-mtc.com>
*Subject:*
[AFMUG]
OT
mildly
political
Woke,
broke,
in
therapy
and
crazy
unhappy.
That
is
how
I
would
describe
some
of
my
kids.
The
alt
right
unwoke
ones
seem
to
have
money
and
happiness.
Never
expected
I
would
not
be
able
to
speak
my
mind
at
family
dinners
just
to
be
able
to
still
see
some
of
my
kids.
Feel
like
I
was
convicted
in
absentia,
thrown
in
the
hole
for
a
lifetime
sentence,
but
taken
out
of
solitary
confinement
now
and
then
at
their
whims
just
so
they
could
claim
to
have
compassion
on
me
for
a
half
hour
walk
in
the
woods.
Maybe
longer
if
I
pay
for
dinner.
Odd
times....
I
loved
my
parents
and
grandparents.
Never
felt
they
had
to
earn
it.
Never
would
have
thought
of
condemning
them
for
the
things
they
said.
Funny,
I
have
a
sister
that
lives
1000
miles
from
me.
Our
families
were
separate
all
while
the
kids
were
growing.
But
some
of
hers
have
done
the
same
things
to
her.
Using
the
exact
same
vernacular.
Must
have
something
to
do
with
energy
drinks
I
think.
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