https://numberportability.com/documents/1584/03162011_all_lnp_waiver_matrix_iTi2A0S.pdf https://pscdocs.utah.gov/telecom/telecomorders/04242401oas.pdf
It looks like South Central Telephone received the same porting waiver as Beehive Telephone. It seems like those waivers expired back in 2004/2005, if I'm reading this correctly. So that should mean that there is nothing prohibiting said port. Given the wide array of VoIP providers in that LATA, it should be technically possible. What likely is happening is that there hasn't been a Trading Partner Profile setup yet and thus, they don't have a way to actually contact South Central telephone to do the port. They just haven't had anyone motivated enough to try to set that up. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP ----- Original Message ----- From: "Craig Baird" <cr...@xpressweb.com> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com> Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2022 5:49:41 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] POTS line over IP network? 435-644 Craig On Sat, Mar 5, 2022 at 3:07 PM Mike Hammett < af...@ics-il.net > wrote: What's the NPA-NXX? ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP From: "Craig Baird" < cr...@xpressweb.com > To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" < af@af.afmug.com > Sent: Friday, March 4, 2022 9:52:24 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] POTS line over IP network? Also, regarding just going with VOIP, that was my first thought. However, I have yet to find a VOIP provider that can port our small town's local numbers. Craig On Fri, Mar 4, 2022 at 7:25 AM Carl Peterson < cpeter...@portnetworks.com > wrote: <blockquote> 1) If you have an ethernet network in place couldn't you just steal a pair? 2) Why bother with converting POTs ->IP -> POTS? Just get rid of the pots line and replace it with a VOIP line. On Thu, Mar 3, 2022 at 7:37 PM Chuck McCown via AF < af@af.afmug.com > wrote: <blockquote> Good cordless phone. Sent from my iPhone <blockquote> On Mar 3, 2022, at 6:09 PM, Darin Steffl < darin.ste...@mnwifi.com > wrote: <blockquote> Don't touch this. It'll be a support disaster and waste of your time. Have them contact the telco to run a new cable on the outside or bury it to that restaurant. Whatever doesn't involve you. On Thu, Mar 3, 2022, 1:00 PM Daniel White < dwh...@atheral.com > wrote: <blockquote> I've not personally done this, but I'd be a Grandstream HT801 for the FXS port and a Grandstream HT813 for the FXO port would work. This document outlines the config - https://www.grandstream.com/hubfs/Product_Documentation/Peering_HT8XX_with_HT813.pdf?hsLang=en photograph Daniel White Co-Founder phone: +1 (702) 470-2770 direct: +1 (702) 470-2766 <blockquote> Chuck McCown via AF March 3, 2022 at 11:06 I have done it with FXS to FXO ATAs. From: dmmoff...@gmail.com Sent: Thursday, March 3, 2022 10:55 AM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] POTS line over IP network? Yeah. The Linksys/Sipura SPA equipment could do that. You’d get a device with the FXO port on one end (I think SPA3000) and then an ATA at the other end. I don’t think that feature set survived the transition to Cisco…..I’m afraid I don’t know the modern equivalent. Adtran Total Access can do that too, but that’s an expensive solution for a gift shop. Asterisk boxes with an FXO card on one end and FXS card on the other…..a little creativity with the dialplan and you’re off to the races. That might be cheap enough, but this may not be practical for everyone. I’m pretty certain it would work, it would just burn a lot of your time. I’d hope somebody here knows the current good/cheap option, but I’m afraid I don’t. From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Craig Baird Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2022 12:48 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> Subject: [AFMUG] POTS line over IP network? Is anyone aware of a device that will take a POTS line from the telco, convert it to IP, and then somewhere on the network convert it back into a normal analog POTs line to plug into an analog handset? Basically, I have a customer who owns a gift shop. They have a restaurant in a separate building behind the gift shop. Currently, they have a POTS line that is strung from the demarc, and across the ceiling of the gift shop. At the rear, it exits the gift shop and makes its way into the restaurant where it eventually plugs into a phone. They want to get rid of the wire that runs across the ceiling because it looks crazy stupid. Unfortunately, there's a reason the wire was originally run that way--there isn't really another way to get it to the restaurant without tearing a bunch of stuff apart (lack of attic and crawlspace). However, I do have an ethernet network in place between the two buildings, and can relatively easily get a wire from the demarc to a network switch. So, what I'm envisioning is a pair of boxes. One of the boxes plugs into Ethernet has an FXS port to plug in the POTS line. The other box, also plugs into Ethernet and has an FXO port to plug in the phone. They see each other over the IP network, and magically transport the POTS line to where it needs to be. Do such devices exist? Craig -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com dmmoff...@gmail.com March 3, 2022 at 10:55 Yeah. The Linksys/Sipura SPA equipment could do that. You’d get a device with the FXO port on one end (I think SPA3000) and then an ATA at the other end. I don’t think that feature set survived the transition to Cisco…..I’m afraid I don’t know the modern equivalent. Adtran Total Access can do that too, but that’s an expensive solution for a gift shop. Asterisk boxes with an FXO card on one end and FXS card on the other…..a little creativity with the dialplan and you’re off to the races. That might be cheap enough, but this may not be practical for everyone. I’m pretty certain it would work, it would just burn a lot of your time. I’d hope somebody here knows the current good/cheap option, but I’m afraid I don’t. From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Craig Baird Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2022 12:48 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> Subject: [AFMUG] POTS line over IP network? Is anyone aware of a device that will take a POTS line from the telco, convert it to IP, and then somewhere on the network convert it back into a normal analog POTs line to plug into an analog handset? Basically, I have a customer who owns a gift shop. They have a restaurant in a separate building behind the gift shop. Currently, they have a POTS line that is strung from the demarc, and across the ceiling of the gift shop. At the rear, it exits the gift shop and makes its way into the restaurant where it eventually plugs into a phone. They want to get rid of the wire that runs across the ceiling because it looks crazy stupid. Unfortunately, there's a reason the wire was originally run that way--there isn't really another way to get it to the restaurant without tearing a bunch of stuff apart (lack of attic and crawlspace). However, I do have an ethernet network in place between the two buildings, and can relatively easily get a wire from the demarc to a network switch. So, what I'm envisioning is a pair of boxes. One of the boxes plugs into Ethernet has an FXS port to plug in the POTS line. The other box, also plugs into Ethernet and has an FXO port to plug in the phone. They see each other over the IP network, and magically transport the POTS line to where it needs to be. Do such devices exist? Craig Craig Baird March 3, 2022 at 10:47 Is anyone aware of a device that will take a POTS line from the telco, convert it to IP, and then somewhere on the network convert it back into a normal analog POTs line to plug into an analog handset? Basically, I have a customer who owns a gift shop. They have a restaurant in a separate building behind the gift shop. Currently, they have a POTS line that is strung from the demarc, and across the ceiling of the gift shop. At the rear, it exits the gift shop and makes its way into the restaurant where it eventually plugs into a phone. They want to get rid of the wire that runs across the ceiling because it looks crazy stupid. Unfortunately, there's a reason the wire was originally run that way--there isn't really another way to get it to the restaurant without tearing a bunch of stuff apart (lack of attic and crawlspace). However, I do have an ethernet network in place between the two buildings, and can relatively easily get a wire from the demarc to a network switch. So, what I'm envisioning is a pair of boxes. One of the boxes plugs into Ethernet has an FXS port to plug in the POTS line. The other box, also plugs into Ethernet and has an FXO port to plug in the phone. They see each other over the IP network, and magically transport the POTS line to where it needs to be. Do such devices exist? 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