That's something I hadn't thought of. I hadn't planned on running fiber for
a while, but maybe it makes sense to bump that up on the priority list.

Craig


On Fri, Mar 4, 2022 at 11:55 PM Brian Webster <i...@wirelessmapping.com>
wrote:

> Maybe you can suggest to them to run fiber between the buildings to
> improve data connectivity and then use the CAT6 for the phone line?
>
>
>
> Thank you,
>
> Brian Webster
>
> www.wirelessmapping.com
>
>
>
> *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Craig Baird
> *Sent:* Friday, March 4, 2022 11:02 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] POTS line over IP network?
>
>
>
> Thanks Daniel. This looks like exactly what I was looking for. I think
> I'll grab these and give it a try, if for nothing else than just to learn
> something new. If for some reason it doesn't work out, I can look at other
> options like running wire outside the building.
>
>
>
> Craig
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 3, 2022 at 12:38 PM Daniel White <dwh...@atheral.com> wrote:
>
> I've not personally done this, but I'd be a Grandstream HT801 for the FXS
> port and a Grandstream HT813 for the FXO port would work.
>
> This document outlines the config -
> https://www.grandstream.com/hubfs/Product_Documentation/Peering_HT8XX_with_HT813.pdf?hsLang=en
>
>
>
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>
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>
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> Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com>
>
> March 3, 2022 at 11:06
>
> I have done it with FXS to FXO ATAs.
>
>
>
> *From:* dmmoff...@gmail.com
>
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 3, 2022 10:55 AM
>
> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] POTS line over IP network?
>
>
>
> Yeah.  The Linksys/Sipura SPA equipment could do that.  You’d get a device
> with the FXO port on one end (I think SPA3000) and then an ATA at the other
> end.
>
> I don’t think that feature set survived the transition to Cisco…..I’m
> afraid I don’t know the modern equivalent.
>
>
>
> Adtran Total Access can do that too, but that’s an expensive solution for
> a gift shop.
>
>
>
> Asterisk boxes with an FXO card on one end and FXS card on the other…..a
> little creativity with the dialplan and you’re off to the races.  That
> might be cheap enough, but this may not be practical for everyone.  I’m
> pretty certain it would work, it would just burn a lot of your time.
>
>
>
> I’d hope somebody here knows the current good/cheap option, but I’m afraid
> I don’t.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf
> Of *Craig Baird
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 03, 2022 12:48 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> <af@af.afmug.com>
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] POTS line over IP network?
>
>
>
> Is anyone aware of a device that will take a POTS line from the telco,
> convert it to IP, and then somewhere on the network convert it back into a
> normal analog POTs line to plug into an analog handset?
>
>
>
> Basically, I have a customer who owns a gift shop. They have a restaurant
> in a separate building behind the gift shop. Currently, they have a POTS
> line that is strung from the demarc, and across the ceiling of the gift
> shop. At the rear, it exits the gift shop and makes its way into the
> restaurant where it eventually plugs into a phone. They want to get rid of
> the wire that runs across the ceiling because it looks crazy stupid.
> Unfortunately, there's a reason the wire was originally run that way--there
> isn't really another way to get it to the restaurant without tearing a
> bunch of stuff apart (lack of attic and crawlspace). However, I do have an
> ethernet network in place between the two buildings, and can relatively
> easily get a wire from the demarc to a network switch.
>
>
>
> So, what I'm envisioning is a pair of boxes. One of the boxes plugs into
> Ethernet has an FXS port to plug in the POTS line. The other box, also
> plugs into Ethernet and has an FXO port to plug in the phone. They see each
> other over the IP network, and magically transport the POTS line to where
> it needs to be.
>
>
>
> Do such devices exist?
>
>
>
> Craig
>
>
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> March 3, 2022 at 10:55
>
> Yeah.  The Linksys/Sipura SPA equipment could do that.  You’d get a device
> with the FXO port on one end (I think SPA3000) and then an ATA at the other
> end.
>
> I don’t think that feature set survived the transition to Cisco…..I’m
> afraid I don’t know the modern equivalent.
>
>
>
> Adtran Total Access can do that too, but that’s an expensive solution for
> a gift shop.
>
>
>
> Asterisk boxes with an FXO card on one end and FXS card on the other…..a
> little creativity with the dialplan and you’re off to the races.  That
> might be cheap enough, but this may not be practical for everyone.  I’m
> pretty certain it would work, it would just burn a lot of your time.
>
>
>
> I’d hope somebody here knows the current good/cheap option, but I’m afraid
> I don’t.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf
> Of *Craig Baird
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 03, 2022 12:48 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> <af@af.afmug.com>
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] POTS line over IP network?
>
>
>
> Is anyone aware of a device that will take a POTS line from the telco,
> convert it to IP, and then somewhere on the network convert it back into a
> normal analog POTs line to plug into an analog handset?
>
>
>
> Basically, I have a customer who owns a gift shop. They have a restaurant
> in a separate building behind the gift shop. Currently, they have a POTS
> line that is strung from the demarc, and across the ceiling of the gift
> shop. At the rear, it exits the gift shop and makes its way into the
> restaurant where it eventually plugs into a phone. They want to get rid of
> the wire that runs across the ceiling because it looks crazy stupid.
> Unfortunately, there's a reason the wire was originally run that way--there
> isn't really another way to get it to the restaurant without tearing a
> bunch of stuff apart (lack of attic and crawlspace). However, I do have an
> ethernet network in place between the two buildings, and can relatively
> easily get a wire from the demarc to a network switch.
>
>
>
> So, what I'm envisioning is a pair of boxes. One of the boxes plugs into
> Ethernet has an FXS port to plug in the POTS line. The other box, also
> plugs into Ethernet and has an FXO port to plug in the phone. They see each
> other over the IP network, and magically transport the POTS line to where
> it needs to be.
>
>
>
> Do such devices exist?
>
>
>
> Craig
>
>
>
>
>
> Craig Baird <cr...@xpressweb.com>
>
> March 3, 2022 at 10:47
>
> Is anyone aware of a device that will take a POTS line from the telco,
> convert it to IP, and then somewhere on the network convert it back into a
> normal analog POTs line to plug into an analog handset?
>
>
>
> Basically, I have a customer who owns a gift shop. They have a restaurant
> in a separate building behind the gift shop. Currently, they have a POTS
> line that is strung from the demarc, and across the ceiling of the gift
> shop. At the rear, it exits the gift shop and makes its way into the
> restaurant where it eventually plugs into a phone. They want to get rid of
> the wire that runs across the ceiling because it looks crazy stupid.
> Unfortunately, there's a reason the wire was originally run that way--there
> isn't really another way to get it to the restaurant without tearing a
> bunch of stuff apart (lack of attic and crawlspace). However, I do have an
> ethernet network in place between the two buildings, and can relatively
> easily get a wire from the demarc to a network switch.
>
>
>
> So, what I'm envisioning is a pair of boxes. One of the boxes plugs into
> Ethernet has an FXS port to plug in the POTS line. The other box, also
> plugs into Ethernet and has an FXO port to plug in the phone. They see each
> other over the IP network, and magically transport the POTS line to where
> it needs to be.
>
>
>
> Do such devices exist?
>
>
>
> Craig
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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