1) If you have an ethernet network in place couldn't you just steal a pair?
2) Why bother with converting POTs ->IP -> POTS?  Just get rid of the pots
line and replace it with a VOIP line.


On Thu, Mar 3, 2022 at 7:37 PM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com> wrote:

> Good cordless phone.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 3, 2022, at 6:09 PM, Darin Steffl <darin.ste...@mnwifi.com> wrote:
>
> 
> Don't touch this. It'll be a support disaster and waste of your time. Have
> them contact the telco to run a new cable on the outside or bury it to that
> restaurant. Whatever doesn't involve you.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 3, 2022, 1:00 PM Daniel White <dwh...@atheral.com> wrote:
>
>> I've not personally done this, but I'd be a Grandstream HT801 for the FXS
>> port and a Grandstream HT813 for the FXO port would work.
>>
>> This document outlines the config -
>> https://www.grandstream.com/hubfs/Product_Documentation/Peering_HT8XX_with_HT813.pdf?hsLang=en
>>
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>> Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com>
>> March 3, 2022 at 11:06
>> I have done it with FXS to FXO ATAs.
>>
>> *From:* dmmoff...@gmail.com
>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 3, 2022 10:55 AM
>> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] POTS line over IP network?
>>
>>
>> Yeah.  The Linksys/Sipura SPA equipment could do that.  You’d get a
>> device with the FXO port on one end (I think SPA3000) and then an ATA at
>> the other end.
>>
>> I don’t think that feature set survived the transition to Cisco…..I’m
>> afraid I don’t know the modern equivalent.
>>
>>
>>
>> Adtran Total Access can do that too, but that’s an expensive solution for
>> a gift shop.
>>
>>
>>
>> Asterisk boxes with an FXO card on one end and FXS card on the other…..a
>> little creativity with the dialplan and you’re off to the races.  That
>> might be cheap enough, but this may not be practical for everyone.  I’m
>> pretty certain it would work, it would just burn a lot of your time.
>>
>>
>>
>> I’d hope somebody here knows the current good/cheap option, but I’m
>> afraid I don’t.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On
>> Behalf Of *Craig Baird
>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 03, 2022 12:48 PM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
>> <af@af.afmug.com>
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] POTS line over IP network?
>>
>>
>>
>> Is anyone aware of a device that will take a POTS line from the telco,
>> convert it to IP, and then somewhere on the network convert it back into a
>> normal analog POTs line to plug into an analog handset?
>>
>>
>>
>> Basically, I have a customer who owns a gift shop. They have a restaurant
>> in a separate building behind the gift shop. Currently, they have a POTS
>> line that is strung from the demarc, and across the ceiling of the gift
>> shop. At the rear, it exits the gift shop and makes its way into the
>> restaurant where it eventually plugs into a phone. They want to get rid of
>> the wire that runs across the ceiling because it looks crazy stupid.
>> Unfortunately, there's a reason the wire was originally run that way--there
>> isn't really another way to get it to the restaurant without tearing a
>> bunch of stuff apart (lack of attic and crawlspace). However, I do have an
>> ethernet network in place between the two buildings, and can relatively
>> easily get a wire from the demarc to a network switch.
>>
>>
>>
>> So, what I'm envisioning is a pair of boxes. One of the boxes plugs into
>> Ethernet has an FXS port to plug in the POTS line. The other box, also
>> plugs into Ethernet and has an FXO port to plug in the phone. They see each
>> other over the IP network, and magically transport the POTS line to where
>> it needs to be.
>>
>>
>>
>> Do such devices exist?
>>
>>
>>
>> Craig
>>
>>
>>
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>> dmmoff...@gmail.com
>> March 3, 2022 at 10:55
>>
>> Yeah.  The Linksys/Sipura SPA equipment could do that.  You’d get a
>> device with the FXO port on one end (I think SPA3000) and then an ATA at
>> the other end.
>>
>> I don’t think that feature set survived the transition to Cisco…..I’m
>> afraid I don’t know the modern equivalent.
>>
>>
>>
>> Adtran Total Access can do that too, but that’s an expensive solution for
>> a gift shop.
>>
>>
>>
>> Asterisk boxes with an FXO card on one end and FXS card on the other…..a
>> little creativity with the dialplan and you’re off to the races.  That
>> might be cheap enough, but this may not be practical for everyone.  I’m
>> pretty certain it would work, it would just burn a lot of your time.
>>
>>
>>
>> I’d hope somebody here knows the current good/cheap option, but I’m
>> afraid I don’t.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On
>> Behalf Of *Craig Baird
>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 03, 2022 12:48 PM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
>> <af@af.afmug.com>
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] POTS line over IP network?
>>
>>
>>
>> Is anyone aware of a device that will take a POTS line from the telco,
>> convert it to IP, and then somewhere on the network convert it back into a
>> normal analog POTs line to plug into an analog handset?
>>
>>
>>
>> Basically, I have a customer who owns a gift shop. They have a restaurant
>> in a separate building behind the gift shop. Currently, they have a POTS
>> line that is strung from the demarc, and across the ceiling of the gift
>> shop. At the rear, it exits the gift shop and makes its way into the
>> restaurant where it eventually plugs into a phone. They want to get rid of
>> the wire that runs across the ceiling because it looks crazy stupid.
>> Unfortunately, there's a reason the wire was originally run that way--there
>> isn't really another way to get it to the restaurant without tearing a
>> bunch of stuff apart (lack of attic and crawlspace). However, I do have an
>> ethernet network in place between the two buildings, and can relatively
>> easily get a wire from the demarc to a network switch.
>>
>>
>>
>> So, what I'm envisioning is a pair of boxes. One of the boxes plugs into
>> Ethernet has an FXS port to plug in the POTS line. The other box, also
>> plugs into Ethernet and has an FXO port to plug in the phone. They see each
>> other over the IP network, and magically transport the POTS line to where
>> it needs to be.
>>
>>
>>
>> Do such devices exist?
>>
>>
>>
>> Craig
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Craig Baird <cr...@xpressweb.com>
>> March 3, 2022 at 10:47
>> Is anyone aware of a device that will take a POTS line from the telco,
>> convert it to IP, and then somewhere on the network convert it back into a
>> normal analog POTs line to plug into an analog handset?
>>
>> Basically, I have a customer who owns a gift shop. They have a restaurant
>> in a separate building behind the gift shop. Currently, they have a POTS
>> line that is strung from the demarc, and across the ceiling of the gift
>> shop. At the rear, it exits the gift shop and makes its way into the
>> restaurant where it eventually plugs into a phone. They want to get rid of
>> the wire that runs across the ceiling because it looks crazy stupid.
>> Unfortunately, there's a reason the wire was originally run that way--there
>> isn't really another way to get it to the restaurant without tearing a
>> bunch of stuff apart (lack of attic and crawlspace). However, I do have an
>> ethernet network in place between the two buildings, and can relatively
>> easily get a wire from the demarc to a network switch.
>>
>> So, what I'm envisioning is a pair of boxes. One of the boxes plugs into
>> Ethernet has an FXS port to plug in the POTS line. The other box, also
>> plugs into Ethernet and has an FXO port to plug in the phone. They see each
>> other over the IP network, and magically transport the POTS line to where
>> it needs to be.
>>
>> Do such devices exist?
>>
>> Craig
>>
>>
>>
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