You can use single sync solutions per AP, so no Ethernet runs

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From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> on behalf of Josh Luthman 
<j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
Date: Friday, September 25, 2020 at 10:05 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Power for 450M via PacketFlux or Rectifier?

I don't need no damn sync.  I have a building with more than enough FTB.

Josh Luthman
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On Fri, Sep 25, 2020 at 9:58 AM Josh Baird 
<joshba...@gmail.com<mailto:joshba...@gmail.com>> wrote:
You (we) still need power+sync even if you use fiber.. We're planning on using 
fiber, too.

On Fri, Sep 25, 2020 at 9:53 AM Josh Luthman 
<j...@imaginenetworksllc.com<mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:
Forgot all about that massive power requirement.  We did DC+fiber to avoid 
ethernet issues.

Josh Luthman
24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
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Troy, OH 45373


On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 2:50 PM Ken Hohhof 
<af...@kwisp.com<mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote:
I think he said 3 GHz 450m which requires direct DC power because it uses like 
1.21 gigawatts.

From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf Of 
Josh Luthman
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2020 1:28 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com<mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Power for 450M via PacketFlux or Rectifier?

If you need sync...power it over that too.

In my case, we don't need sync on our deployment so we went fiber + DC.  No 
sync - we've got a bomb shelter building for a good bit of shielding.

Josh Luthman
24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 1:57 PM Ken Hohhof 
<af...@kwisp.com<mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote:
I can’t remember last time I power cycled an AP, it’s been years.

Only time would be if I did something stupid and needed to do the quick power 
cycle to get into the Recovery Console.  Usually that wouldn’t be an AP that’s 
in service, but one from the used pile that I’m planning to redeploy but I 
didn’t label where it came from.

Sometimes after a year or two uptime some of the Ubiquiti stuff will go off to 
Lalaland and need a reboot, I had to do an old Powerbridge the other day, but I 
could still reboot it from the GUI.  I had an old Karlnet/YDI/Terabeam/Proxim 
backhaul radio that needed to be power cycled regularly but that was 15 years 
ago and it got replaced with a PTP500 which has now been replaced with a PTP820.


From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sean Heskett
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2020 12:30 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com<mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Power for 450M via PacketFlux or Rectifier?

Either way is fine, we’ve chosen to do it in the PacketFlux RI so that 
everything is standardized across our towers.  Support staff and field techs 
know that ALL APs get power from a rack injector...so when problems happen look 
there and try a reboot.

-Sean


On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 9:18 AM Josh Baird 
<joshba...@gmail.com<mailto:joshba...@gmail.com>> wrote:
We're deploying our first 450M gear soon.  This site will have a +48VDC ICT 
rectifier solution and DC distribution (managed).

We're going to be using a PacketFlux RackInkjector w/ Cambium Sync modules to 
provide sync to the 450M 3ghz radios.  We could load a PDU module in the 
RackInjector as well to provide power to them.  Alternatively, we could power 
them directly off of the ICT managed distribution.

Both solutions are managed (can turn them on/off via IP).  Is there any reason 
to use the PacketFlux PDU module over the DC distribution panel in this 
scenario?

Cheers,

Josh


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