Exactly. It’s an extremely murky word that’s rarely defined. What am I “reselling” and what do I own that makes me reselling my product and not the service I’m buying.
> On Aug 17, 2020, at 7:16 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: > > Let's say you get a gig from Comcast. And you have a server farm. So you > use a tunnel to connect your server farm to a college campus internal > network. Now all of the students can obtain the content on your servers. I > don't think anyone would consider that reselling. Even if the college or the > students are paying a fee for the content. > > Now, let's say the college lets you use their DIA and a bunch of IPs to use. > Nice guys. > > And then on your end allowing others to use that DIA and those IPs.... > Obviously reselling connectivity to the campus DIA but not Comcast. > > I would think in this scenario, that as long as you are not passing external > customer IP traffic over the layer 3 Comcast network for them to route and > forward you are not reselling their services. After thinking about it a bit, > I think a tunnel can be used for whatever you want. Be very hard to define > things that are OK to tunnel and not OK. > Maybe a focus could be, are you taking customers that would otherwise be > Comcast customers? In that case the answer is probably not ok and would be > considered reselling. > > Not sure how I would word an AUP if I was Comcast in this situation. You > can't tell the customer they cannot make money off their connection or their > tunnel. Let's say you have a video subscription service on your server farm. > That could compete with the Comcast video business. Would I, as Comcast, > try to limit all competitive uses in the AUP? Perhaps... > > Interesting question. Since I am just now starting to hook up customers to > my new company, I may have to consider this in an AUP. Plain language. If > you are doing something that can be considered competing with me, that is > ungood and you will have to take a timeout. I wonder how that will play with > my new customers? > > -----Original Message----- From: Matt Hoppes > Sent: Monday, August 17, 2020 4:54 PM > To: af@af.afmug.com > Subject: [AFMUG] What is “reselling”? > > Define “reselling” a circuit. > > Obviously getting a connection and sticking customers on the provider’s IP > addresses would be reselling without a doubt. > > Is running a tunnel over a circuit back to a data center and sticking > customer traffic in the tunnel reselling? I would think not as the only > thing the connection is carrying is my VPN traffic. > > So now further down the rabbit hole - if the provider supports BGP and I’m > using my IP addresses - am I “reselling” the provider’s service or mine? > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
