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On Sat, Jul 25, 2020, 9:08 AM Cameron Crum <cc...@murcevilo.com> wrote:

> There was a Dune miniseries done a few years ago that was much better than
> the movie they did in the 80s. It followed the book much more closely.
>
> Cameron
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> On Sat, Jul 25, 2020 at 10:01 AM Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
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>> Dune books, Dune movie, Dune video game. I only have experienced the
>> latter.
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>> *From: *"Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com>
>> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com>
>> *Sent: *Friday, July 24, 2020 10:04:10 PM
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] bored
>>
>> My wife was into science fiction.  She always bought these every year:
>>
>> https://us.macmillan.com/series/yearsbestsciencefiction/
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>> After she died, I took boxes of them to the AAUW book sale.
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>> She also tried to convince me Dune was great literature.  I have nothing
>> against SF, but that’s not my idea of a good time.  When I was a kid I
>> liked reading Jules Verne.  And watching Flash Gordon in TV.
>>
>>
>>
>> There are some underrated old sci fi movies, like Forbidden Planet, Enemy
>> Mine, The Day The Earth Stood Still.  Many movies were based on novels.
>> You could track down the books.  I remember reading On The Beach.
>>
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>> I used to watch stuff like Twilight Zone, I must be too lazy to read.
>> Maybe I need a cognitive test.  Person, woman, man, camera, TV.
>>
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>> https://www.reddit.com/r/PoliticalHumor/comments/hwqglc/person_woman_man_camera_tv_hotdog/
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>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Mark Radabaugh
>> *Sent:* Friday, July 24, 2020 9:11 PM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] bored
>>
>>
>>
>> So y’all were supposed to find me some other good SciFi books.   There is
>> a lot of SciFi out there but the vast majority of it reads like the
>> narration of a first person shooter.  Boring.
>>
>>
>>
>> Martha Wells “All Systems Red” is amusing.
>>
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>>
>> Mark
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>> On Jul 24, 2020, at 6:27 PM, Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> The movie is shit, but apparently it wasn't even supposed to be a
>> Starship Troopers movie.  The original title was "Bug Hunt on Outpost 9".
>> Someone at the Heinlein estate thought it had too much similarity to
>> Starship Troopers and there was a legal dispute.  The studio agreed to pay
>> licensing to use Starship Troopers IP.  The director had apparently never
>> even heard of the book and was annoyed at having to rework the movie into
>> the "Starship Troopers" framework.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 7/24/2020 5:59 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
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>> Why are people talking about Starship Troopers lately?  I’d never heard
>> of it.  I asked my son what it was about and he said bugs.  Bad bugs?
>> Yes.  Good movie?  Stupid movie.
>>
>>
>>
>> Was it satire?  There’s a fine line between satire and stupid.
>>
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>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On
>> Behalf Of *Mark Radabaugh
>> *Sent:* Friday, July 24, 2020 4:15 PM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
>> <af@af.afmug.com>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] bored
>>
>>
>>
>> Heinlein hasn’t aged as well as I would have expected.   Some great ideas
>> but the sex bits appealed a lot more to a teenage male than they do some 40
>> years later.
>>
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>>
>> Asimov has held up very well - as good today as it was when it was
>> written.
>>
>>
>>
>> For newer SciFi:
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>>
>>
>> I absolutely love Dan Simmons “Hyperion Cantos”.   A bit slow to start
>> but a fantastic work.    Don’t start it if you have other things you need
>> to do.
>>
>>
>>
>> The “Imperial Radch” series by Ann Leckie is also one of my very
>> favorites.  A bit hard to wrap your head around at first but once you
>> figure it out it’s excellent.
>>
>>
>>
>> If you want something that’s just a plain fun easy read - “Old Man’s War”
>> by John Scalzi is a concept straight out of Heinlein’s style, with a
>> slightly different twist on the sexuality.
>>
>>
>>
>> Mark
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>>
>> On Jul 24, 2020, at 4:53 PM, Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>>
>> I liked Heinlein's Starship Troopers.
>>
>> The idea that citizenship is not a birthright but something you earn
>> through service to society was interesting food for thought.  It's not
>> something we could do realistically, but it was interesting to think
>> about.  On the other hand, the idea that every soldier takes care of his
>> own logistics is pretty dumb though.  Heinlein must have found it
>> objectionable to have more people in the rear echelon than you have actual
>> fighters, but frankly modern wars are won by logistics.  Having more
>> soldiers is irrelevant if they don't have food, ammo, clothing, and fully
>> working equipment; and expecting every Gomer Pile to take part in every
>> aspect of that would be dumb.
>>
>> Puppet Masters wasn't bad either.  It spawned the whole body snatching
>> subgenre in sci fi.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 7/24/2020 4:14 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
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>> I get Sinclair Lewis and Upton Sinclair confused.  Didn’t really like
>> either of them.  Been a while since I read any Bradbury or Heinlein.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Ken Hohhof
>>
>> *Sent:* Friday, July 24, 2020 2:01 PM
>>
>> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] bored
>>
>>
>>
>> I talked to an old college friend the other day, he had just read and was
>> recommending “It Can’t Happen Here” by Sinclair Lewis.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On
>> Behalf Of *Adam Moffett
>> *Sent:* Friday, July 24, 2020 2:54 PM
>> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] bored
>>
>>
>>
>> Books are better.
>>
>> I found the 1911 edition of the *Boy Scouts Handbook *enlightening.  The
>> views expressed by the author(s) are a glimpse into a different time.  It
>> also discusses survival and outdoor skills in broad terms.  If you tried to
>> build a bow or a log cabin from the instructions in that book you'd have to
>> do a lot of your own figuring to fill in the blanks, but maybe that's the
>> whole point, and maybe that's the piece we're missing from society today.
>> Like maybe the journey of figuring out the precise techniques to carve the
>> notches into the logs is a better experience than emulating a you-tuber who
>> shows you every single step.
>>
>> My other recent recreational book was the *National Audubon Society
>> Field Guide to North American Trees*. I lived 40 years on this earth
>> only ever learning a handful of major tree types (Oak, Maple, etc).  I'm
>> embarrassed to say I was calling every needle leafed tree a "pine" for most
>> of those years.  I finally decided to educate myself on the topic.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 7/24/2020 3:29 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>>
>> I am not much of a sports fan... I thought.  But with no sports on I am
>> really missing them.  I would at times catch part of a game to pass the
>> time.  That option is gone for the moment and there nothing but crap on to
>> watch...  Need a good book I guess.
>>
>>
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