So y’all were supposed to find me some other good SciFi books.   There is a lot 
of SciFi out there but the vast majority of it reads like the narration of a 
first person shooter.  Boring.   

Martha Wells “All Systems Red” is amusing.

Mark

> On Jul 24, 2020, at 6:27 PM, Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> The movie is shit, but apparently it wasn't even supposed to be a Starship 
> Troopers movie.  The original title was "Bug Hunt on Outpost 9".  Someone at 
> the Heinlein estate thought it had too much similarity to Starship Troopers 
> and there was a legal dispute.  The studio agreed to pay licensing to use 
> Starship Troopers IP.  The director had apparently never even heard of the 
> book and was annoyed at having to rework the movie into the "Starship 
> Troopers" framework.
> 
> 
> 
> On 7/24/2020 5:59 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>> Why are people talking about Starship Troopers lately?  I’d never heard of 
>> it.  I asked my son what it was about and he said bugs.  Bad bugs?  Yes.  
>> Good movie?  Stupid movie.
>>  
>> Was it satire?  There’s a fine line between satire and stupid.
>>  
>>  
>> From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On 
>> Behalf Of Mark Radabaugh
>> Sent: Friday, July 24, 2020 4:15 PM
>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> 
>> <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] bored
>>  
>> Heinlein hasn’t aged as well as I would have expected.   Some great ideas 
>> but the sex bits appealed a lot more to a teenage male than they do some 40 
>> years later.
>>  
>> Asimov has held up very well - as good today as it was when it was written.
>>  
>> For newer SciFi:
>>  
>> I absolutely love Dan Simmons “Hyperion Cantos”.   A bit slow to start but a 
>> fantastic work.    Don’t start it if you have other things you need to do.
>>  
>> The “Imperial Radch” series by Ann Leckie is also one of my very favorites.  
>> A bit hard to wrap your head around at first but once you figure it out it’s 
>> excellent.
>>  
>> If you want something that’s just a plain fun easy read - “Old Man’s War” by 
>> John Scalzi is a concept straight out of Heinlein’s style, with a slightly 
>> different twist on the sexuality.   
>>  
>> Mark
>> 
>> 
>> On Jul 24, 2020, at 4:53 PM, Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>  
>> I liked Heinlein's Starship Troopers.  
>> The idea that citizenship is not a birthright but something you earn through 
>> service to society was interesting food for thought.  It's not something we 
>> could do realistically, but it was interesting to think about.  On the other 
>> hand, the idea that every soldier takes care of his own logistics is pretty 
>> dumb though.  Heinlein must have found it objectionable to have more people 
>> in the rear echelon than you have actual fighters, but frankly modern wars 
>> are won by logistics.  Having more soldiers is irrelevant if they don't have 
>> food, ammo, clothing, and fully working equipment; and expecting every Gomer 
>> Pile to take part in every aspect of that would be dumb.
>> Puppet Masters wasn't bad either.  It spawned the whole body snatching 
>> subgenre in sci fi.
>>  
>> On 7/24/2020 4:14 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>> I get Sinclair Lewis and Upton Sinclair confused.  Didn’t really like either 
>> of them.  Been a while since I read any Bradbury or Heinlein.
>>  
>> From: Ken Hohhof
>> Sent: Friday, July 24, 2020 2:01 PM
>> To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] bored
>>  
>> I talked to an old college friend the other day, he had just read and was 
>> recommending “It Can’t Happen Here” by Sinclair Lewis.
>>  
>> From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On 
>> Behalf Of Adam Moffett
>> Sent: Friday, July 24, 2020 2:54 PM
>> To: af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] bored
>>  
>> Books are better.
>> I found the 1911 edition of the Boy Scouts Handbook enlightening.  The views 
>> expressed by the author(s) are a glimpse into a different time.  It also 
>> discusses survival and outdoor skills in broad terms.  If you tried to build 
>> a bow or a log cabin from the instructions in that book you'd have to do a 
>> lot of your own figuring to fill in the blanks, but maybe that's the whole 
>> point, and maybe that's the piece we're missing from society today.  Like 
>> maybe the journey of figuring out the                             precise 
>> techniques to carve the notches into the logs is a better experience than 
>> emulating a you-tuber who shows you every single step.
>> My other recent recreational book was the National Audubon Society Field 
>> Guide to North American Trees. I lived 40 years on this earth only ever 
>> learning a handful of major tree types (Oak, Maple, etc).  I'm embarrassed 
>> to say I was calling every needle leafed tree a "pine" for most of those 
>> years.  I finally decided to educate myself on the topic.
>>  
>> On 7/24/2020 3:29 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>> I am not much of a sports fan... I thought.  But with no sports on I am 
>> really missing them.  I would at times catch part of a game to pass the 
>> time.  That option is gone for the moment and there nothing but crap on to 
>> watch...  Need a good book I guess.
>> 
>> 
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