I saw the 80's Dune movie first.  Later I read the book and was surprised that I couldn't find any reference to the "Weirding module".  It seemed to be a big deal in the movie, but the book didn't seem to mention it at all and instead put a lot of emphasis on hand to hand combat. --because apparently their force fields are proof against normal bullets and artillery, and if you shoot lasers at them both the gun and the shield explode and nobody wins. So knife fighting was the only thing left.

On 7/24/2020 11:07 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
First three Dune books are pretty good.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 24, 2020, at 9:04 PM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:



My wife was into science fiction.  She always bought these every year:

https://us.macmillan.com/series/yearsbestsciencefiction/

After she died, I took boxes of them to the AAUW book sale.

She also tried to convince me Dune was great literature.  I have nothing against SF, but that’s not my idea of a good time.  When I was a kid I liked reading Jules Verne.  And watching Flash Gordon in TV.

There are some underrated old sci fi movies, like Forbidden Planet, Enemy Mine, The Day The Earth Stood Still.  Many movies were based on novels.  You could track down the books.  I remember reading On The Beach.

I used to watch stuff like Twilight Zone, I must be too lazy to read.  Maybe I need a cognitive test.  Person, woman, man, camera, TV.

https://www.reddit.com/r/PoliticalHumor/comments/hwqglc/person_woman_man_camera_tv_hotdog/

*From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Mark Radabaugh
*Sent:* Friday, July 24, 2020 9:11 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] bored

So y’all were supposed to find me some other good SciFi books.   There is a lot of SciFi out there but the vast majority of it reads like the narration of a first person shooter.  Boring.

Martha Wells “All Systems Red” is amusing.

Mark



    On Jul 24, 2020, at 6:27 PM, Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com
    <mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>> wrote:

    The movie is shit, but apparently it wasn't even supposed to be a
    Starship Troopers movie.  The original title was "Bug Hunt on
    Outpost 9". Someone at the Heinlein estate thought it had too
    much similarity to Starship Troopers and there was a legal
    dispute.  The studio agreed to pay licensing to use Starship
    Troopers IP.  The director had apparently never even heard of the
    book and was annoyed at having to rework the movie into the
    "Starship Troopers" framework.

    On 7/24/2020 5:59 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

        Why are people talking about Starship Troopers lately?  I’d
        never heard of it.  I asked my son what it was about and he
        said bugs.  Bad bugs?  Yes.  Good movie?  Stupid movie.

        Was it satire?  There’s a fine line between satire and stupid.

        *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com>
        <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Mark Radabaugh
        *Sent:* Friday, July 24, 2020 4:15 PM
        *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
        <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>
        *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] bored

        Heinlein hasn’t aged as well as I would have expected.   Some
        great ideas but the sex bits appealed a lot more to a teenage
        male than they do some 40 years later.

        Asimov has held up very well - as good today as it was when
        it was written.

        For newer SciFi:

        I absolutely love Dan Simmons “Hyperion Cantos”.   A bit slow
        to start but a fantastic work.    Don’t start it if you have
        other things you need to do.

        The “Imperial Radch” series by Ann Leckie is also one of my
        very favorites.  A bit hard to wrap your head around at first
        but once you figure it out it’s excellent.

        If you want something that’s just a plain fun easy read -
        “Old Man’s War” by John Scalzi is a concept straight out of
        Heinlein’s style, with a slightly different twist on the
        sexuality.

        Mark




            On Jul 24, 2020, at 4:53 PM, Adam Moffett
            <dmmoff...@gmail.com <mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>> wrote:

            I liked Heinlein's Starship Troopers.

            The idea that citizenship is not a birthright but
            something you earn through service to society was
            interesting food for thought.  It's not something we
            could do realistically, but it was interesting to think
            about.  On the other hand, the idea that every soldier
            takes care of his own logistics is pretty dumb though.
            Heinlein must have found it objectionable to have more
            people in the rear echelon than you have actual fighters,
            but frankly modern wars are won by logistics.  Having
            more soldiers is irrelevant if they don't have food,
            ammo, clothing, and fully working equipment; and
            expecting every Gomer Pile to take part in every aspect
            of that would be dumb.

            Puppet Masters wasn't bad either.  It spawned the whole
            body snatching subgenre in sci fi.

            On 7/24/2020 4:14 PM,ch...@wbmfg.com
            <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>wrote:

                I get Sinclair Lewis and Upton Sinclair confused. 
                Didn’t really like either of them. Been a while since
                I read any Bradbury or Heinlein.

                *From:*Ken Hohhof

                *Sent:*Friday, July 24, 2020 2:01 PM

                *To:*'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'

                *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] bored

                I talked to an old college friend the other day, he
                had just read and was recommending “It Can’t Happen
                Here” by Sinclair Lewis.

                *From:*AF<af-boun...@af.afmug.com>
                <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>*On Behalf Of*Adam
                Moffett
                *Sent:*Friday, July 24, 2020 2:54 PM
                *To:*af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>
                *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] bored

                Books are better.

                I found the 1911 edition of the/Boy Scouts
                Handbook/enlightening. The views expressed by the
                author(s) are a glimpse into a different time.  It
                also discusses survival and outdoor skills in broad
                terms.  If you tried to build a bow or a log cabin
                from the instructions in that book you'd have to do a
                lot of your own figuring to fill in the blanks, but
                maybe that's the whole point, and maybe that's the
                piece we're missing from society today.  Like maybe
                the journey of figuring out the precise techniques to
                carve the notches into the logs is a better
                experience than emulating a you-tuber who shows you
                every single step.

                My other recent recreational book was the/National
                Audubon Society Field Guide to North American Trees/.
                I lived 40 years on this earth only ever learning a
                handful of major tree types (Oak, Maple, etc).  I'm
                embarrassed to say I was calling every needle leafed
                tree a "pine" for most of those years.  I finally
                decided to educate myself on the topic.

                On 7/24/2020 3:29 PM,ch...@wbmfg.com
                <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>wrote:

                    I am not much of a sports fan... I thought. But
                    with no sports on I am really missing them.  I
                    would at times catch part of a game to pass the
                    time.  That option is gone for the moment and
                    there nothing but crap on to watch... Need a good
                    book I guess.





                
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