Scalzi books are good. I liked Lock In, still working through his others.

I am really looking forward to “Ready Player Two”, later this year.


> On Jul 24, 2020, at 20:11, Mark Radabaugh <m...@amplex.net> wrote:
> 
> So y’all were supposed to find me some other good SciFi books.   There is a 
> lot of SciFi out there but the vast majority of it reads like the narration 
> of a first person shooter.  Boring.   
> 
> Martha Wells “All Systems Red” is amusing.
> 
> Mark
> 
>> On Jul 24, 2020, at 6:27 PM, Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> The movie is shit, but apparently it wasn't even supposed to be a Starship 
>> Troopers movie.  The original title was "Bug Hunt on Outpost 9".  Someone at 
>> the Heinlein estate thought it had too much similarity to Starship Troopers 
>> and there was a legal dispute.  The studio agreed to pay licensing to use 
>> Starship Troopers IP.  The director had apparently never even heard of the 
>> book and was annoyed at having to rework the movie into the "Starship 
>> Troopers" framework.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 7/24/2020 5:59 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>>> Why are people talking about Starship Troopers lately?  I’d never heard of 
>>> it.  I asked my son what it was about and he said bugs.  Bad bugs?  Yes.  
>>> Good movie?  Stupid movie.
>>>  
>>> Was it satire?  There’s a fine line between satire and stupid.
>>>  
>>>  
>>> From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Mark Radabaugh
>>> Sent: Friday, July 24, 2020 4:15 PM
>>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] bored
>>>  
>>> Heinlein hasn’t aged as well as I would have expected.   Some great ideas 
>>> but the sex bits appealed a lot more to a teenage male than they do some 40 
>>> years later.
>>>  
>>> Asimov has held up very well - as good today as it was when it was written.
>>>  
>>> For newer SciFi:
>>>  
>>> I absolutely love Dan Simmons “Hyperion Cantos”.   A bit slow to start but 
>>> a fantastic work.    Don’t start it if you have other things you need to do.
>>>  
>>> The “Imperial Radch” series by Ann Leckie is also one of my very favorites. 
>>>  A bit hard to wrap your head around at first but once you figure it out 
>>> it’s excellent.
>>>  
>>> If you want something that’s just a plain fun easy read - “Old Man’s War” 
>>> by John Scalzi is a concept straight out of Heinlein’s style, with a 
>>> slightly different twist on the sexuality.   
>>>  
>>> Mark
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jul 24, 2020, at 4:53 PM, Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>  
>>> I liked Heinlein's Starship Troopers.  
>>> The idea that citizenship is not a birthright but something you earn 
>>> through service to society was interesting food for thought.  It's not 
>>> something we could do realistically, but it was interesting to think about. 
>>>  On the other hand, the idea that every soldier takes care of his own 
>>> logistics is pretty dumb though.  Heinlein must have found it objectionable 
>>> to have more people in the rear echelon than you have actual fighters, but 
>>> frankly modern wars are won by logistics.  Having more soldiers is 
>>> irrelevant if they don't have food, ammo, clothing, and fully working 
>>> equipment; and expecting every Gomer Pile to take part in every aspect of 
>>> that would be dumb.
>>> Puppet Masters wasn't bad either.  It spawned the whole body snatching 
>>> subgenre in sci fi.
>>>  
>>> On 7/24/2020 4:14 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>>> I get Sinclair Lewis and Upton Sinclair confused.  Didn’t really like 
>>> either of them.  Been a while since I read any Bradbury or Heinlein.
>>>  
>>> From: Ken Hohhof
>>> Sent: Friday, July 24, 2020 2:01 PM
>>> To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] bored
>>>  
>>> I talked to an old college friend the other day, he had just read and was 
>>> recommending “It Can’t Happen Here” by Sinclair Lewis.
>>>  
>>> From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
>>> Sent: Friday, July 24, 2020 2:54 PM
>>> To: af@af.afmug.com
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] bored
>>>  
>>> Books are better.
>>> I found the 1911 edition of the Boy Scouts Handbook enlightening.  The 
>>> views expressed by the author(s) are a glimpse into a different time.  It 
>>> also discusses survival and outdoor skills in broad terms.  If you tried to 
>>> build a bow or a log cabin from the instructions in that book you'd have to 
>>> do a lot of your own figuring to fill in the blanks, but maybe that's the 
>>> whole point, and maybe that's the piece we're missing from society today.  
>>> Like maybe the journey of figuring out the precise techniques to carve the 
>>> notches into the logs is a better experience than emulating a you-tuber who 
>>> shows you every single step.
>>> My other recent recreational book was the National Audubon Society Field 
>>> Guide to North American Trees. I lived 40 years on this earth only ever 
>>> learning a handful of major tree types (Oak, Maple, etc).  I'm embarrassed 
>>> to say I was calling every needle leafed tree a "pine" for most of those 
>>> years.  I finally decided to educate myself on the topic.
>>>  
>>> On 7/24/2020 3:29 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>>> I am not much of a sports fan... I thought.  But with no sports on I am 
>>> really missing them.  I would at times catch part of a game to pass the 
>>> time.  That option is gone for the moment and there nothing but crap on to 
>>> watch...  Need a good book I guess.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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