Good points. 

> On Jan 28, 2020, at 8:30 AM, Lewis Bergman <lewis.berg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Gotcha. I think Ken has a better approach. But, if you are really looking for 
> the whole state, I would maybe not think of them as a sales person. More of a 
> Channel Manager. Their job would be to go out and build those partnerships 
> Ken mentioned and to setup a program, train partners, continue to measure 
> their success, cull the ones that don't continue to perform, and develop the 
> channel by continuing to bring in more highly qualified partners. It also 
> takes your target from tens of thousands to a few thousand IT people.
> it seems that approach would lead to more sales that are better qualified and 
> likely of a higher tier than a straight salesperson who would likely end up 
> just taking calls from inside sales.
> 
> In addition, a channel manager would be easier to manage and much easier to 
> find than the type of aggressive sales person you are going to need. We use 
> Hubspot to promote through our web site and track the sales process. No 
> matter what path you decide on I recommend it highly. Not cheap but good 
> results and great tracking from first look through to sales cycle completion.
> 
>> On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 6:43 AM Matt Hoppes 
>> <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:
>> To bring in larger commercial sales that aren’t natively calling. 
>> 
>>> On Jan 27, 2020, at 10:25 PM, Lewis Bergman <lewis.berg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I guess I don't understand why you would want to pay a salesperson with a 
>>> 100% close rate. Why not spend the money on either front line phone 
>>> answering people or installers? If you have more than a 2 day wait list it 
>>> seems pointless to guess sales staff. 
>>> 
>>>> On Mon, Jan 27, 2020, 8:31 PM Matt Hoppes 
>>>> <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:
>>>> I know you don’t believe it but it’s true. 
>>>> 
>>>> I see you don’t include pricing on your website. We do. I suspect that 
>>>> contributes to some of the difference. 
>>>> 
>>>> When people call us they’ve already looked at the webpage and aren’t so 
>>>> much calling for pricing as much as calling to get service. 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jan 27, 2020, at 9:22 PM, Darin Steffl <darin.ste...@mnwifi.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Matt,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Plenty of people call who are price shopping. They're paying $30 to $55 
>>>>> per month with a competitor for worse service. But they call and ask if 
>>>>> we can offer faster service for the same or less money. We give them our 
>>>>> pricing and if it's $1 more than what they have now, they go radio 
>>>>> silent. This isn't everyone obviously but it's a significant number of 
>>>>> the 35% who don't commit to our service. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I know your numbers are exaggerated because there is simply nowhere near 
>>>>> a 100% close rate on ISP sales. I don't believe your claim. Sorry 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mon, Jan 27, 2020, 7:27 PM Matt Hoppes 
>>>>>> <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:
>>>>>> Not exaggerated. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Folks who call us are ready to dump Comcast. It’s barely a sell and more 
>>>>>> a schedule of when we can get there. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Same with businesses who call. They already made their mind up they want 
>>>>>> us when they call. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I’m trying to drum up sales for folks who haven’t called or don’t know 
>>>>>> of us. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Why would someone call and then not signup?  Literally the only folks 
>>>>>> who don’t signup on the first call are folks outside our coverage area. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Jan 27, 2020, at 8:18 PM, Darin Steffl <darin.ste...@mnwifi.com> 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I have to assume you're exaggerating with a 100% close rate. That's 
>>>>>>> literally not possible.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Looking at our stats of current and canceled subs, then comparing it to 
>>>>>>> serviceable subs who didn't go with us, we're at a 65% close rate for 
>>>>>>> residential. Very fair in my opinion. We are definitely not cheap. Our 
>>>>>>> minimum is now $65 monthly but I feel good not having as many cheap and 
>>>>>>> complaining customers. 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jan 27, 2020, 7:13 PM Lewis Bergman <lewis.berg...@gmail.com> 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Wow... Sounds like you are to cheap. Just kidding. I assume you have 
>>>>>>>> little to no completion. 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jan 27, 2020, 6:29 PM Matt Hoppes 
>>>>>>>>> <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Our close ratio of leads we get is 100%. So not likely. This person 
>>>>>>>>> would be drumming up new leads that are not organically coming in. 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 27, 2020, at 7:16 PM, Lewis Bergman <lewis.berg...@gmail.com> 
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I would hope an effective sales person in the position you describe 
>>>>>>>>>> could triple the close ratio of the leads you get currently and 
>>>>>>>>>> generate a few every month you are not currently seeing. 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jan 27, 2020, 6:06 PM Matt Hoppes 
>>>>>>>>>>> <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> We are looking at hiring a commercial sales rep. 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Their job would be to sell direct to larger businesses dedicated 
>>>>>>>>>>> fiber internet service. 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Assuming a sales area the size of Pennsylvania - is it reasonable 
>>>>>>>>>>> to assume a closed sale count for business fiber customers of 4-6 
>>>>>>>>>>> accounts per month?
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