Assumingly at considerably more expense.
----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP ----- Original Message ----- From: ch...@wbmfg.com To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com> Sent: Friday, September 6, 2019 2:56:08 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fiber I do rock all day long. Even solid rock at times. -----Original Message----- From: Matt Hoppes Sent: Friday, September 6, 2019 1:53 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Rock. > On Sep 6, 2019, at 3:44 PM, <ch...@wbmfg.com> <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: > > Why? > > -----Original Message----- From: Matt Hoppes > Sent: Friday, September 6, 2019 10:40 AM > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group ; Colin Stanners > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fiber > > And the cost to run underground fiber in central Pennsylvania is > astronomical -- if not impossible. > >> On 9/6/19 12:37 PM, Colin Stanners wrote: >> Then they need to move to underground, as long as it's done well and the >> other utilities are good with CBYD, chances of problems are very small. >> >> On Fri, Sep 6, 2019 at 11:32 AM Matt Hoppes >> <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net >> <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>> wrote: >> >> That's what everyone keeps saying.... but my fiber provider sends me >> e-mails every other week about pole fires taking out fiber, trees >> taking >> out fiber, wind taking out fiber, etc. >> >> On 9/6/19 12:30 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: >> > When it's broken it can be expensive, but frankly it doesn't >> break that >> > often. >> > -Adam >> > >> > On 9/6/2019 12:29 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote: >> >> Except the contractor gets paid every time the fiber gets broken. >> >> >> >> On 9/6/19 12:18 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: >> >>> If you've only got 2 or 3 people *total* then you'd be relying on >> >>> contractors a lot and basically just being an owner/GC. Your >> capex >> >>> will be higher than with in-house labor, but console yourself >> with >> >>> the idea that the contractor only gets paid once, and you get >> paid >> >>> for 50 years. >> >>> >> >>> -Adam >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> On 9/6/2019 8:30 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote: >> >>>> People ask why I don’t do fiber. The following story pretty much >> >>>> sums it up. For those doing fiber, how do you do it with a 2 or >> 3 >> >>>> man team? We’d be run ragged. How do you stay sain? >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> Someone was logging up in Ogdensburg near Joe Hill and took a >> tree >> >>>> down which took another tree down which took another tree down >> which >> >>>> snapped off the side arms of the utility pole taking out the >> >>>> powerlines which burned the fiber underneath it. >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> Last night about 11 o’clock I drove up there on my way home and >> >>>> found the Crown Castle guys trying to figure out where the fiber >> >>>> damage was, I talk to them for a moment and they were like >> yeah it’s >> >>>> like 2500 feet away from here but we can’t figure out where the >> >>>> fiber goes, I said follow me, so they got over there and >> started work. >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> Zito was already over there fixing their fiber with about 10 >> guys >> >>>> and five trucks. >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> I just spun back up there and as of this morning they (both >> >>>> companies) are still trying to figure out why the fiber is not >> working. >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> Add to this the utility easement is on the side of a mountain >> and >> >>>> not right beside the road. These guys had entire teams and >> haven’t >> >>>> fixed 1,500ft of fiber in 12 hours plus had to wait nearly >> 7hrs to >> >>>> even access the local due to power lines down. >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>> >> >>> >> > >> >> -- AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> >> > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
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