Rock. 

> On Sep 6, 2019, at 3:44 PM, <ch...@wbmfg.com> <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
> 
> Why?
> 
> -----Original Message----- From: Matt Hoppes
> Sent: Friday, September 6, 2019 10:40 AM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group ; Colin Stanners
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fiber
> 
> And the cost to run underground fiber in central Pennsylvania is
> astronomical -- if not impossible.
> 
>> On 9/6/19 12:37 PM, Colin Stanners wrote:
>> Then they need to move to underground, as long as it's done well and the 
>> other utilities are good with CBYD, chances of problems are very small.
>> 
>> On Fri, Sep 6, 2019 at 11:32 AM Matt Hoppes 
>> <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net 
>> <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>> wrote:
>> 
>>    That's what everyone keeps saying.... but my fiber provider sends me
>>    e-mails every other week about pole fires taking out fiber, trees
>>    taking
>>    out fiber, wind taking out fiber, etc.
>> 
>>    On 9/6/19 12:30 PM, Adam Moffett wrote:
>>     > When it's broken it can be expensive, but frankly it doesn't
>>    break that
>>     > often.
>>     > -Adam
>>     >
>>     > On 9/6/2019 12:29 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
>>     >> Except the contractor gets paid every time the fiber gets broken.
>>     >>
>>     >> On 9/6/19 12:18 PM, Adam Moffett wrote:
>>     >>> If you've only got 2 or 3 people *total* then you'd be relying on
>>     >>> contractors a lot and basically just being an owner/GC.  Your
>>    capex
>>     >>> will be higher than with in-house labor, but console yourself with
>>     >>> the idea that the contractor only gets paid once, and you get paid
>>     >>> for 50 years.
>>     >>>
>>     >>> -Adam
>>     >>>
>>     >>>
>>     >>> On 9/6/2019 8:30 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
>>     >>>> People ask why I don’t do fiber. The following story pretty much
>>     >>>> sums it up. For those doing fiber, how do you do it with a 2 or 3
>>     >>>> man team?  We’d be run ragged.  How do you stay sain?
>>     >>>>
>>     >>>>
>>     >>>>
>>     >>>>
>>     >>>>
>>     >>>> Someone was logging up in Ogdensburg near Joe Hill and took a
>>    tree
>>     >>>> down which took another tree down which took another tree down
>>    which
>>     >>>> snapped off the side arms of the utility pole taking out the
>>     >>>> powerlines which burned the fiber underneath it.
>>     >>>>
>>     >>>>
>>     >>>> Last night about 11 o’clock I drove up there on my way home and
>>     >>>> found the Crown Castle guys trying to figure out where the fiber
>>     >>>> damage was, I talk to them for a moment and they were like
>>    yeah it’s
>>     >>>> like 2500 feet away from here but we can’t figure out where the
>>     >>>> fiber goes, I said follow me, so they got over there and
>>    started work.
>>     >>>>
>>     >>>>
>>     >>>> Zito was already over there fixing their fiber with about 10 guys
>>     >>>> and five trucks.
>>     >>>>
>>     >>>>
>>     >>>> I just spun back up there and as of this morning they (both
>>     >>>> companies) are still trying to figure out why the fiber is not
>>    working.
>>     >>>>
>>     >>>>
>>     >>>> Add to this the utility easement is on the side of a mountain and
>>     >>>> not right beside the road. These guys had entire teams and
>>    haven’t
>>     >>>> fixed 1,500ft of fiber in 12 hours plus had to wait nearly
>>    7hrs to
>>     >>>> even access the local due to power lines down.
>>     >>>>
>>     >>>>
>>     >>>
>>     >>>
>>     >
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