Why?
-----Original Message-----
From: Matt Hoppes
Sent: Friday, September 6, 2019 10:40 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group ; Colin Stanners
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fiber
And the cost to run underground fiber in central Pennsylvania is
astronomical -- if not impossible.
On 9/6/19 12:37 PM, Colin Stanners wrote:
Then they need to move to underground, as long as it's done well and the
other utilities are good with CBYD, chances of problems are very small.
On Fri, Sep 6, 2019 at 11:32 AM Matt Hoppes
<mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net
<mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>> wrote:
That's what everyone keeps saying.... but my fiber provider sends me
e-mails every other week about pole fires taking out fiber, trees
taking
out fiber, wind taking out fiber, etc.
On 9/6/19 12:30 PM, Adam Moffett wrote:
> When it's broken it can be expensive, but frankly it doesn't
break that
> often.
> -Adam
>
> On 9/6/2019 12:29 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
>> Except the contractor gets paid every time the fiber gets broken.
>>
>> On 9/6/19 12:18 PM, Adam Moffett wrote:
>>> If you've only got 2 or 3 people *total* then you'd be relying on
>>> contractors a lot and basically just being an owner/GC. Your
capex
>>> will be higher than with in-house labor, but console yourself
with
>>> the idea that the contractor only gets paid once, and you get
paid
>>> for 50 years.
>>>
>>> -Adam
>>>
>>>
>>> On 9/6/2019 8:30 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
>>>> People ask why I don’t do fiber. The following story pretty much
>>>> sums it up. For those doing fiber, how do you do it with a 2 or
3
>>>> man team? We’d be run ragged. How do you stay sain?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Someone was logging up in Ogdensburg near Joe Hill and took a
tree
>>>> down which took another tree down which took another tree down
which
>>>> snapped off the side arms of the utility pole taking out the
>>>> powerlines which burned the fiber underneath it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Last night about 11 o’clock I drove up there on my way home and
>>>> found the Crown Castle guys trying to figure out where the fiber
>>>> damage was, I talk to them for a moment and they were like
yeah it’s
>>>> like 2500 feet away from here but we can’t figure out where the
>>>> fiber goes, I said follow me, so they got over there and
started work.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Zito was already over there fixing their fiber with about 10
guys
>>>> and five trucks.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I just spun back up there and as of this morning they (both
>>>> companies) are still trying to figure out why the fiber is not
working.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Add to this the utility easement is on the side of a mountain
and
>>>> not right beside the road. These guys had entire teams and
haven’t
>>>> fixed 1,500ft of fiber in 12 hours plus had to wait nearly
7hrs to
>>>> even access the local due to power lines down.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>
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