I use the Mikrotik white GigE POE units now, they are ok, but have a fail rate 
a bit higher than I like.
I have hundreds of the black Tycon GigE POE units in the field as well, but 
they don't seem to work well with longer runs and higher amps.
Those black ones are ok for RB260GS units on less than 50' average, but have a 
fail rate a bit higher than I like as well.

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From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2019 1:08 PM
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Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Looking for PS and POE

I reverse engineered Mikrotiks GigE POE.  They use a LINK transformer I 
believe.  I have used LINK and PULSE.  LINK claims that PULSE knocked them off. 
 There was a lawsuit.  I think Forrest knows some of the details.

-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Andrews
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2019 12:30 PM
To: AFMUG
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Looking for PS and POE

We found that their implementation of Gig POE shorted out 100mb/s POE
devices..   Not like the Mikrotik Gig POE's that would handle both
without any device damage...   I couldn't believe it at first thought I
made a wiring mistake and so destroyed a second radio before pinning stuff 
out...

On 02/14/2019 10:59 AM, Ryan Hill wrote:
> We were not impressed what so ever.
>
> They seem to mass produce with limited quality control if any!  If 
> your going to use, I would certainly do your due diligence in testing 
> and vetting their manufacturing processes and product availability
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>> On Feb 14, 2019, at 1:45 PM, Sterling Jacobson <sterl...@avative.net 
>> <mailto:sterl...@avative.net>> wrote:
>>
>> Well that’s a horrible review.
>> Maybe I won’t use their products…
>> *From:*AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com 
>> <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>>*On
>> Behalf Of*Ryan Hill
>> *Sent:*Thursday, February 14, 2019 11:17 AM *To:*AnimalFarm Microwave 
>> Users Group <af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
>> *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Looking for PS and POE Buyer beware...
>> We had horrendous issues with Texas Wifi products.  After Cambium 
>> stoped producing th PhiHong POEs we found Texas Wifi and they made a 
>> comparable solution that we purchased.  Over time every single one of them 
>> failed.
>> We lost count above 500, and needless to say we moved on and went 
>> with the Cambium POE.
>>
>>
>>
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>> /     Ryan Hill /
>>    Operations Manager
>> *Amplex I**nternet*
>> (419)837-5015 Ext 1047
>> www.amplex.net <http://www.amplex.net/>
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>>     On Feb 14, 2019, at 1:03 PM, Sterling Jacobson
>>     <sterl...@avative.net <mailto:sterl...@avative.net>> wrote:
>>     33W using this version:
>>     https://mikrotik.com/product/rb4011igs_rm
>>     *From:*AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com
>>     <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>>*On Behalf Of*Josh Luthman
>>     *Sent:*Thursday, February 14, 2019 10:49 AM
>>     *To:*AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com
>>     <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
>>     *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Looking for PS and POE
>>     Max power is 23 watts.
>>     https://mikrotik.com/product/rb4011igs_5hacq2hnd_in
>>     Assuming you're not powering anything besides the board you
>>     shouldn't have much to worry about.
>>     Josh Luthman
>>     Office: 937-552-2340
>>     Direct: 937-552-2343
>>     1100 Wayne St
>>     Suite 1337
>>     Troy, OH 45373
>>     On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 12:05 PM Sterling Jacobson
>>     <sterl...@avative.net <mailto:sterl...@avative.net>> wrote:
>>
>>         Just found out about POE Texas, will be ordering some of their
>>         stuff soon.
>>         I’m interested in powering mikrotik RB4011 so I guess a 1A
>>         might cover it, but like to be able to give more power with 24v.
>>         *From:*AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com
>>         <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>>*On Behalf Of*Colin Stanners
>>         *Sent:*Wednesday, February 13, 2019 8:39 PM
>>         *To:*AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com
>>         <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
>>         *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Looking for PS and POE
>>         He may be doing similar to what our ham radio HSMM group did
>>         for some cost-effective setups, one (or 2 redundant, using a
>>         diode device) 24V supply feeding a 5$ standard 1:4 to 1:8 DC
>>         splitter (used for security camera systems) then to PoE
>>         injectors. We're doing that for Ubnt/MT radios using 4$
>>         100mbit offbrand injectors and it's nice way to have something
>>         small and DC, with some redundancy, for cheap.
>>         On Wed, Feb 13, 2019, 9:24 PM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com
>>         <mailto:af...@kwisp.com>wrote:
>>
>>             What are you powering?  24V at 1.8A is way more than most
>>             CPE, but most gigabit APs and backhauls want 48V not 24V.
>>             Also not sure why you want a separate wall wart and a
>>             round DC power plug rather than injector and power supply
>>             in one with an AC cord.
>>             There’s also the question of whether you’re looking for
>>             passive or 802.3af with signature detection and a status
>>             light.
>>             But you’d think between Tycon and POE Texas you could find
>>             whatever you want.
>>             *From:*AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com
>>             <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>>*On Behalf Of*Colin Stanners
>>             *Sent:*Wednesday, February 13, 2019 8:45 PM
>>             *To:*AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com
>>             <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
>>             *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Looking for PS and POE
>>             For gigabit PoE injector it all depends on the pinout that
>>             you need - what pinout/radio do you want to power? Why do
>>             the manufacturer solutions not work?
>>             For PS, do you need plastic-case "consumer" PSU or is a
>>             semi-open-frame OK?
>>
>>             On Wed, Feb 13, 2019, 7:29 PM Sterling Jacobson
>>             <sterl...@avative.net <mailto:sterl...@avative.net>wrote:
>>
>>                 I’m looking for a new/good supplier of a Gigabit POE
>>                 injector that has the female DC receptacle on it and
>>                 is known to work well.
>>                 Also looking for good PS too, 24v around 1.8A would be
>>                 nice, again with the round DC male end on about 6’
>>                 cord from a wall wart is fine.
>>                 For some reason can’t seem to find a good vendor of
>>                 either of those items, that are known good over time
>>                 and decent price.
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