On Sat, Jan 04, 2025 at 01:29:19PM -0800, Ron Minnich wrote:
> let's make a deal.
>
> I will talk to Ampere about what is the right way to simulate their
> system. I have friends there. If we get enough people to get NIX
> running on a simulator, then I'll try to figure out how to get us some
> real hardware, which we could position at a friendly university --
> anybody want to volunteer? We used to have a Plan 9 system at LBNL,
> back in the day, but all those people left. So we need a new friendly
> space.
For the hardware, I will put money where my mouth is: I will gladly
donate some hundreds of $ to help to gather the amount
needed to get some hardware. What structure will gather and
administrate the founds is to be decided---the plan9 foundation seemed
to me an obvious choice, but I'm not adamant about this as long as we
don't see again an increase of entropy.
Donate: no strings attached; I'm not claiming "rights" to access
the hardware, or to have a voice to decide who or what will have
it, and neither candidating to be part of a "team": On the kernel
side, I'm largely out of my depth for now with far more questions
than answers and I'm currently mastering a lot of documentation to
reach a reasonable level of understanding, both about the problems
and about the different solutions proposed, now or before---still
hoping that at the end there will still be good questions left
unanswered so that there is perhaps a good path that has still not
be tried ;-)
>
> Deal?
>
> This is hard work, and it's far more important to be persistent over a
> long time than to get excited, put out a huge effort, and then drop
> it.
>
> It's WAY more important to put in the "think time" to work out how it
> gets done than to write code. The amount of code is small. The details
> are tricky. Thinking and reading code matters much, much more than
> writing code.
>
> I've been down this road a lot. Just an hour or so a week, applied
> consistently over a period of months, can get us there. Our goal
> should be to have NIX working on a simulator by May. Believe it or
> not, that's just about the right amount of time.
>
> As to which kernel, I lean to 9front. It's the most actively developed
> one I know of just now.
>
> On Sat, Jan 4, 2025 at 12:17?PM Kim Shrier <k...@westryn.net> wrote:
> > > On Jan 3, 2025, at 11:56?AM, Ron Minnich <rminn...@p9f.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > This has been a very interesting discussion, thanks all. My offer
> > > remains: if anyone wants to revive NIX, I am happy to help.
> > >
> > > ron
> >
> > I have been interested in NIX since I read about it and would be
> > willing to assist, if possible, in reviving it. However, I don?t have
> > the time to do so right now due to my day job consuming 110%
> > of my time and other commitments in my personal life consuming
> > anything I might consider discretionary time for personal projects.
> >
> > If this effort gets started, I would like to be kept advised of its
> > status. And, if possible, I would like to help.
> >
> > Kim
> > _
> > C++ is an off-by-one error
> >
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