Hi WG,

This draft has been well discussed and addressed the issues. As the co author 
of this draft, I think it is mature enough, so I support the adoption.

Regards,
Peng 


liupeng...@chinamobile.com
 
From: Yong-Geun Hong
Date: 2022-08-06 15:57
To: Luigi IANNONE
CC: Pascal Thubert (pthubert); Tommaso Pecorella; Carles Gomez Montenegro; 
6lo@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [6lo] Call for WG adoption of draft-li-6lo-native-short-address-03
Hi, 6lo WG.

I support the adoption for draft-li-6lo-native-short-address-03.
From the IETF 111 meeting, this draft was sufficiently discussed and I believe 
that it has positive feedback from 6lo WG.  
As Pascal said, this draft has better to consider the narrow applicability and 
try to find a common/general use case. 

Best regards.

Yong-Geun.


2022년 8월 5일 (금) 오후 8:28, Luigi IANNONE 
<luigi.iannone=40huawei....@dmarc.ietf.org>님이 작성:
Hi Pascal,
 
From: 6lo <6lo-boun...@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
Sent: Friday, 5 August 2022 12:28
To: Tommaso Pecorella <tommaso.pecore...@unifi.it>
Cc: Carles Gomez Montenegro <carle...@entel.upc.edu>; 6lo@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [6lo] Call for WG adoption of draft-li-6lo-native-short-address-03
 
Hello Tommaso: 
 
Good to hear from you…
 
My first concern is related to the applicability of the idea. Do we have any 
standard L2 that will build a tree that will never change? This is not the case 
of Ethernet spanning tree as you know. I’ve met such an IoT case once in my 
life, in a very specific application network where numbering or frame size were 
the least of their problems.
The IETF is reaching 10K RFC. This obfuscates our work, even to ourselves, and 
doesn’t serve the end users. We need RFCs that solve problems in the real world 
and the first step for that is to demonstrate that the proposal applies to a 
real network. We need RFCs that apply the most generically possible. How is 
that the case here?
 
That is something you need to bring to the attention of the IESG. 
Actually there is a new WG for such kind of discussions:  
https://datatracker.ietf.org/rfcedtyp/rswg/about/
It is not the role of any WG to filter documents based non-documented 
publications policies.
 
Ciao
 
Luigi
 
 
Take care,
 
Pascal


Le 4 août 2022 à 21:50, Tommaso Pecorella <tommaso.pecore...@unifi.it> a écrit :
 Hi all, 
 
I had the opportunity to see this proposal from the beginning, and to talk 
extensively about it with the authors.
 
The present draft does not fully cover some essential parts, like the 
robustness of the methodology in case of link failure, but I think that these 
can - and should - be the subject of an extra document.
 
I do agree with Pascal about the fact that this proposal is “below” the IP 
level, but I disagree on his conclusions. The proposal, in my opinion, has 
enough interactions with the IPv6 address operations (e.g., neighbour 
discovery, scope of addresses, etc.) to be worth to be discussed in this group.
 
Moreover, despite the quite specific applicability scenarios, the risk to not 
standardise it in the IETF scope is to have (yet another) proprietary standard 
that directly impacts the IP layer, leading to interoperability nightmares 
(read: total lack of interoperability between devices).
 
Hence, I’m favourable for a WG adoption.
 
Best regards,
 
Tommaso Pecorella
 
 
 
On 1 Aug 2022, at 09:58, Carles Gomez Montenegro <carle...@entel.upc.edu> wrote:
 
Dear 6lo WG,

This message starts a call for WG adoption for
draft-li-6lo-native-short-address-03.

(Link below:
https://www.google.com/url?q=https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-li-6lo-native-short-address-03&source=gmail-imap&ust=1659970630000000&usg=AOvVaw1wg_-bvDuMmSw50lPNMu5k)

Considering that some folks may be on vacation currently or in the next
few days, the call will end on the 22nd of August, EOB.

Please state whether you are in favor of adopting this document.

Also, any comments you may have, and/or expressions of interest to review
the document, will be very much appreciated.

Thanks,

Shwetha and Carles

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