Hi, 6lo WG.

I support the adoption for draft-li-6lo-native-short-address-03.
>From the IETF 111 meeting, this draft was sufficiently discussed and I
believe that it has positive feedback from 6lo WG.
As Pascal said, this draft has better to consider the narrow
applicability and try to find a common/general use case.

Best regards.

Yong-Geun.


2022년 8월 5일 (금) 오후 8:28, Luigi IANNONE <luigi.iannone=
40huawei....@dmarc.ietf.org>님이 작성:

> Hi Pascal,
>
>
>
> *From:* 6lo <6lo-boun...@ietf.org> *On Behalf Of *Pascal Thubert
> (pthubert)
> *Sent:* Friday, 5 August 2022 12:28
> *To:* Tommaso Pecorella <tommaso.pecore...@unifi.it>
> *Cc:* Carles Gomez Montenegro <carle...@entel.upc.edu>; 6lo@ietf.org
> *Subject:* Re: [6lo] Call for WG adoption of
> draft-li-6lo-native-short-address-03
>
>
>
> Hello Tommaso:
>
>
>
> Good to hear from you…
>
>
>
> My first concern is related to the applicability of the idea. Do we have
> any standard L2 that will build a tree that will never change? This is not
> the case of Ethernet spanning tree as you know. I’ve met such an IoT case
> once in my life, in a very specific application network where numbering or
> frame size were the least of their problems.
>
> The IETF is reaching 10K RFC. This obfuscates our work, even to ourselves,
> and doesn’t serve the end users. We need RFCs that solve problems in the
> real world and the first step for that is to demonstrate that the proposal
> applies to a real network. We need RFCs that apply the most generically
> possible. How is that the case here?
>
>
>
> That is something you need to bring to the attention of the IESG.
>
> Actually there is a new WG for such kind of discussions:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/rfcedtyp/rswg/about/
>
> It is not the role of any WG to filter documents based non-documented
> publications policies.
>
>
>
> Ciao
>
>
>
> Luigi
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> Take care,
>
>
>
> Pascal
>
>
>
> Le 4 août 2022 à 21:50, Tommaso Pecorella <tommaso.pecore...@unifi.it> a
> écrit :
>
>  Hi all,
>
>
>
> I had the opportunity to see this proposal from the beginning, and to talk
> extensively about it with the authors.
>
>
>
> The present draft does not fully cover some essential parts, like the
> robustness of the methodology in case of link failure, but I think that
> these can - and should - be the subject of an extra document.
>
>
>
> I do agree with Pascal about the fact that this proposal is “below” the IP
> level, but I disagree on his conclusions. The proposal, in my opinion, has
> enough interactions with the IPv6 address operations (e.g., neighbour
> discovery, scope of addresses, etc.) to be worth to be discussed in this
> group.
>
>
>
> Moreover, despite the quite specific applicability scenarios, the risk to
> not standardise it in the IETF scope is to have (yet another) proprietary
> standard that directly impacts the IP layer, leading to interoperability
> nightmares (read: total lack of interoperability between devices).
>
>
>
> Hence, I’m favourable for a WG adoption.
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
>
>
> Tommaso Pecorella
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 1 Aug 2022, at 09:58, Carles Gomez Montenegro <carle...@entel.upc.edu>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> Dear 6lo WG,
>
> This message starts a call for WG adoption for
> draft-li-6lo-native-short-address-03.
>
> (Link below:
>
> https://www.google.com/url?q=https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-li-6lo-native-short-address-03&source=gmail-imap&ust=1659970630000000&usg=AOvVaw1wg_-bvDuMmSw50lPNMu5k
> )
>
> Considering that some folks may be on vacation currently or in the next
> few days, the call will end on the 22nd of August, EOB.
>
> Please state whether you are in favor of adopting this document.
>
> Also, any comments you may have, and/or expressions of interest to review
> the document, will be very much appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Shwetha and Carles
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