Hi Pascal, From: 6lo <6lo-boun...@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Pascal Thubert (pthubert) Sent: Friday, 5 August 2022 12:28 To: Tommaso Pecorella <tommaso.pecore...@unifi.it> Cc: Carles Gomez Montenegro <carle...@entel.upc.edu>; 6lo@ietf.org Subject: Re: [6lo] Call for WG adoption of draft-li-6lo-native-short-address-03
Hello Tommaso: Good to hear from you… My first concern is related to the applicability of the idea. Do we have any standard L2 that will build a tree that will never change? This is not the case of Ethernet spanning tree as you know. I’ve met such an IoT case once in my life, in a very specific application network where numbering or frame size were the least of their problems. The IETF is reaching 10K RFC. This obfuscates our work, even to ourselves, and doesn’t serve the end users. We need RFCs that solve problems in the real world and the first step for that is to demonstrate that the proposal applies to a real network. We need RFCs that apply the most generically possible. How is that the case here? That is something you need to bring to the attention of the IESG. Actually there is a new WG for such kind of discussions: https://datatracker.ietf.org/rfcedtyp/rswg/about/ It is not the role of any WG to filter documents based non-documented publications policies. Ciao Luigi Take care, Pascal Le 4 août 2022 à 21:50, Tommaso Pecorella <tommaso.pecore...@unifi.it<mailto:tommaso.pecore...@unifi.it>> a écrit : Hi all, I had the opportunity to see this proposal from the beginning, and to talk extensively about it with the authors. The present draft does not fully cover some essential parts, like the robustness of the methodology in case of link failure, but I think that these can - and should - be the subject of an extra document. I do agree with Pascal about the fact that this proposal is “below” the IP level, but I disagree on his conclusions. The proposal, in my opinion, has enough interactions with the IPv6 address operations (e.g., neighbour discovery, scope of addresses, etc.) to be worth to be discussed in this group. Moreover, despite the quite specific applicability scenarios, the risk to not standardise it in the IETF scope is to have (yet another) proprietary standard that directly impacts the IP layer, leading to interoperability nightmares (read: total lack of interoperability between devices). Hence, I’m favourable for a WG adoption. Best regards, Tommaso Pecorella On 1 Aug 2022, at 09:58, Carles Gomez Montenegro <carle...@entel.upc.edu<mailto:carle...@entel.upc.edu>> wrote: Dear 6lo WG, This message starts a call for WG adoption for draft-li-6lo-native-short-address-03. (Link below: https://www.google.com/url?q=https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-li-6lo-native-short-address-03&source=gmail-imap&ust=1659970630000000&usg=AOvVaw1wg_-bvDuMmSw50lPNMu5k) Considering that some folks may be on vacation currently or in the next few days, the call will end on the 22nd of August, EOB. Please state whether you are in favor of adopting this document. Also, any comments you may have, and/or expressions of interest to review the document, will be very much appreciated. Thanks, Shwetha and Carles _______________________________________________ 6lo mailing list 6lo@ietf.org<mailto:6lo@ietf.org> https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/6lo&source=gmail-imap&ust=1659970630000000&usg=AOvVaw0i_toV1jgA4ThVjf5vBmqX -------------------------------------------------------------- ``It's not worth doing something unless you were doing something that someone, somewere, would much rather you weren't doing.'' -- Terry Pratchett -------------------------------------------------------------- Tommaso Pecorella - Ph.D. Associate professor Dpt. Ingegneria dell'Informazione Università di Firenze CNIT - Università di Firenze Unit via di S. Marta 3 50139, Firenze ITALY email: tommaso.pecore...@unifi.it<mailto:tommaso.pecore...@unifi.it> tommaso.pecore...@cnit.it<mailto:tommaso.pecore...@cnit.it> phone : +39-055-2758540 mobile: +39-320-4379803 fax : +39-055-2758570 _______________________________________________ 6lo mailing list 6lo@ietf.org<mailto:6lo@ietf.org> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/6lo
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