Hallelujah!  I don't know when this post actually appeared in the forum, but it 
wasn't one I'd seen until right now.  If it didn't just appear due to whatever 
kind of fluke made the 'disappeared' post appear right now too, I apologize for 
having missed it earlier.

> In a compressed raw file, it'll affect the rest of
> the file generally; 
> so it essentially renders the whole thing useless,
> unless it happens to 
> hit towards the end and you can crop around it.  If
> it hits in metadata 
> (statistically unlikely, the bulk of the file is
> image data) it's 
> probably at worst annoying, but it *might* hit one of
> the bits software 
> uses to recognize and validate the file, too.
> 
> In an uncompressed raw file, if it hits in image data
> it'll affect 
> probably 9 pixels; it's easily fixed.

That's what I figured (and the above is the first time you've mentioned 
*compressed* RAW files, so the obvious next observation is that if they 
compress well - and if not, why bother compressing them? - then the amount of 
room that they occupy is significantly smaller and the likelihood of getting an 
error in one is similarly smaller).

...

> > Even assuming that you meant 'MB' rather than 'Mb'
> above, that suggests that it would take you well over
> a decade to amass 1 TB of RAW data (assuming that, as
> you suggest both above and later, you didn't
> accumulate several hundred MB of pictures *every* day
> but just on those days when you were traveling, at a
> sporting event, etc.).
> >   
> 
> I seem to come up with a DVD full every month or two
> these days, 
> myself.  I mean, it varies; there was this one
> weekend I filled 4 or 
> some such; but it varies both ways, and that average
> isn't too far 
> off.   25GB a year seems to take 40 years to reach
> 1TB.  However, my 
> rate has increased so dramatically in the last 7
> years that I'm not at 
> all sure what to expect; is it time for the curve to
> level off yet, for 
> me?  Who knows!

Well, it still looks as if you're taking well over a decade to fill 1 TB at 
present, as I estimated.

> 
> Then again, I'm *also* working on scanning in the
> *last* 40 years worth 
> of photos, and those tend to be bigger (scans are
> less good pixels so 
> you need more of them), and *that* runs the numbers
> up, in chunks when I 
> take time to do a big scanning batch.

OK - that's another new input, though not yet a quantitative one.

...

> >> Even if you've got your original file archived,
> you
> >> still need
> >> your working copies available, and Adobe Photoshop
> >> can turn that
> >> RAW file into a PSD of nearly 60Mb in some cases.
> >>     
> >
> > If you really amass all your pictures this way
> (rather than, e.g., use Photoshop on some of them and
> then save the result in a less verbose format), I'll
> suggest that this takes you well beyond the
> 'consumer' range of behavior.
> >   
> 
> It's not snapshot usage, but it's common amateur
> usage.  Amateurs tend 
> to do lots of the same things professionals do (and
> sometimes better, 
> though not usually).  Hobbies are like that. 
> 
> The argument for the full Photoshop file is the
> concept of 
> "nondestructive editing".  I do retouching on new
> layers instead of 
> erasing what I already have with the new stuff. I use
> adjustment layers 
> with layer masks for curve adjustments.  I can go
> back and improve the 
> mask, or nudge the curves, without having to start
> over from scratch.  
> It's a huge win.  And it may be more valuable for
> amateurs, actually; 
> professionals tend to have the experience to know
> their minds better and 
> know when they have it right, so many of them may do
> less revisiting old 
> stuff and improving it a bit.  Also, when the job is
> done and sent to 
> the client, they tend not to care about it any more.

OK - but at a *maximum* of 60 MB per shot you're still talking about having to 
manually massage at least 20,000 shots in Photoshop before the result consumes 
1 TB of space.  That's a *lot* of manual labor:  do you really perform it on 
anything like that number of shots?

- bill
 
 
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