can you guess? wrote:

> CERN was using relatively cheap disks and found that they were more than 
> adequate (at least for any normal consumer use) without that additional level 
> of protection:  the incidence of errors, even including the firmware errors 
> which presumably would not have occurred in a normal consumer installation 
> lacking hardware RAID, was on the order of 1 per TB - and given that it's 
> really, really difficult for a consumer to come anywhere near that much data 
> without most of it being video files (which just laugh and keep playing when 
> they discover small errors) that's pretty much tantamount to saying that 
> consumers would encounter no *noticeable* errors at all.
>   

I haven't played with bit errors in video.  A bit error in a JPEG 
generally corrupts everything after that point.  And it's pretty easy 
for people to have a TB or so of image files of various sorts.  
Furthermore, I'm interested in archiving those for at least the rest of 
my life. 

Because I'm in touch with a number of professional photographers, who 
have far more pictures than I do, I think of 1TB as a level a lot of 
people are using in a non-IT context, with no professional sysadmin 
involved in maintaining or designing their storage schemes. 

I think all of these are good reasons why people *do* care about errors 
at the levels you mention.

One of my photographer friends found a bad cable in one of his computers 
that was upping his error rate by an order of magnitude (to 10^-13 I 
think).  Having ZFS would have made this less dangerous, and detected it 
more quickly.

Generally, I think you underestimate the amount of data some people 
have, and how much they care about it.  I can't imagine this will 
decrease significantly over the next decade, either.

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