On Dec 2, 2008, at 4:47 PM, Александър Л. Димитров wrote:
> Thus spoke Jean-Philippe Bernardy: >> >>> The current logo is okay for now, but (and this is very >>> subjective) I >>> don't feel that an "oriental" feels makes much sense for Yi. > > Well, but it isn't a problem either, is it? I might be biased, > because I'm (at > least half-) a linguist, but I love the (international-ity of the) > logo and > it actually got me interested in Yi. I'm clearly in the minority here, and since I don't have a better idea, it should stay indefinitely. :) Perhaps I'm alone because I simply don't "get" it at all. I have no idea what it's supposed to mean, so it just seems random. Apparently, it's a lambda with the 'Yi' character overlaid, but most people would never recognize that. >>> Other than the name, it really has nothing at all to do with >>> oriental >>> countries, and I think of the name as more of "vi" than a Chinese >>> character. >>> :) It also works poorly on the Mac dock > > Although I do use Macs, I despise their user interface so much, I > only ever ssh > into them; so my comment may be ignorant, but can't we just make a > slightly > altered version only for the Mac's dock? How about putting it in a > circle or so? I'm not sure what to do here. Again, I am suggesting stuff without any ability to do it myself (and with little design skill), so I must keep that in mind whenever writing anything. Applications on OS X tend to have "shiny" and "vector-ey" logos. I'm not sure how to work with the Yi logo to make it fit in, so again, let's allow it to stay until somebody has a better idea. >>> A wiki is great, but I suspect we might be able to integrate a >>> cleaner >>> design, more content (including documentation) in a wiki, release >>> information, development info, and the blog all together into one >>> site >>> that might be more useful than a couple of pages on the Haskellwiki. > > As a friend of mine once put it: nothing says 'hack me' like a nice > Wiki page. > As of now, I think Yi needs more hackers than users. Actually, I > think Yi isn't > really ready for full-time users (at least not the Vim keymap.) As I said in the beginning, these are long-term goals of mine. We could keep a wiki while maintaining more structure with our own content and blog, in my opinion. Also, in the long term, we may want to look at getting regular users. >> I don't have strong opinions. > > The way it went for the XMonad team was that at some point someone > just did a > new homepage, they liked it, and thus the new homepage was brought > online. Maybe > we could do the same. *silent* I didn't mean to raise my hand by suggesting it as a long-term goal. I just figured it'd be nice too see, eventually. If somebody does decide to work on at some point in the future, I'm more than willing to help, of course. >> I like the logo (hey, it's my baby :), and there is some amount of >> "branding" attached to it. e.g. If I can trust the HCAR, it will >> show on >> the Ro/Haskell book cover (amazing :). So, I'd rather see an >> evolution >> of it than a redesign. On the other hand I can see it's >> lacking in terms of readability. > > I love the logo. And I find it very readable. Perhaps we can enhance > the colors. > I remember that when I first saw it, I had to giggle in hilarity for > about 5 > minutes. When I first saw it, I didn't even notice the lambda and figured it was some remnant from a very old version of Yi. :P > One of my most pressing issues right now is getting the Vim map to > be useful. > And a Spell Czech, preferably by using an external tool, like > ispell, aspell or > whatever-spell. I agree on the Vim front. Jeff Wheeler --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Yi development mailing list yi-devel@googlegroups.com http://groups.google.com/group/yi-devel -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
