Thus spoke Jean-Philippe Bernardy:
> 
> On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 5:16 AM, Jeff Wheeler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > On Dec 1, 5:57 pm, "Gwern Branwen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> :( I disagree on both points - I actually like the current logo (it
> >> has an elegant, oriental sort of feel). And I don't think setting up a
> >> 'real' website has significant advantages for us; what does a real
> >> website buy us that we couldn't have much cheaper just working in the
> >> Haskell wiki? Not much.
> >
> > The current logo is okay for now, but (and this is very subjective) I
> > don't feel that an "oriental" feels makes much sense for Yi. 

Well, but it isn't a problem either, is it? I might be biased, because I'm (at
least half-) a linguist, but I love the (international-ity of the) logo and
it actually got me interested in Yi.

> > Other than the name, it really has nothing at all to do with oriental
> > countries, and I think of the name as more of "vi" than a Chinese character.
> > :) It also works poorly on the Mac dock

Although I do use Macs, I despise their user interface so much, I only ever ssh
into them; so my comment may be ignorant, but can't we just make a slightly
altered version only for the Mac's dock? How about putting it in a circle or so?

> > A wiki is great, but I suspect we might be able to integrate a cleaner
> > design, more content (including documentation) in a wiki, release
> > information, development info, and the blog all together into one site
> > that might be more useful than a couple of pages on the Haskellwiki.

As a friend of mine once put it: nothing says 'hack me' like a nice Wiki page.
As of now, I think Yi needs more hackers than users. Actually, I think Yi isn't
really ready for full-time users (at least not the Vim keymap.)

> I don't have strong opinions.

The way it went for the XMonad team was that at some point someone just did a
new homepage, they liked it, and thus the new homepage was brought online. Maybe
we could do the same.

> I like the logo (hey, it's my baby :), and there is some amount of
> "branding" attached to it. e.g. If I can trust the HCAR, it will show on
> the Ro/Haskell book cover (amazing :). So, I'd rather see an evolution
> of it than a redesign. On the other hand I can see it's
> lacking in terms of readability.

I love the logo. And I find it very readable. Perhaps we can enhance the colors.
I remember that when I first saw it, I had to giggle in hilarity for about 5
minutes.

One of my most pressing issues right now is getting the Vim map to be useful.
And a Spell Czech, preferably by using an external tool, like ispell, aspell or
whatever-spell.

Aleks

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