Thankfully those instructions are somewhat easy atleast.  Some of these 
"how to create an admin install"  are horribly complex.


To me, as a paying customer at a very, very large enterprise,   it annoys 
the hell out of me.  Don't make me figure out how to do this for all of the 
systems that I support.  Just give me a download link to the darn ISO.   
Something the build/release team could have done just once and published 
now has to be redone over and over by thousands of organizations.


I'm sorry, I just don't get it on this one.

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From: "John H Bergman (XPedient)" <john.berg...@xpdnt.com>

Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 1:04 PM

To: "General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset." 
<wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net>

Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Wow!


To reinforce a comment earlier about this being Microsoft's apparent 
direction as well, The latest SSDT (SQL Development Tools) uses the same 
methodology of the /layout switch.


http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/data/hh297027


John


-----Original Message-----

From: James Johnston [mailto:johnst...@inn-soft.com] 

Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2012 10:26 AM

To: 'General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.'

Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Wow!


And this is why there needs to be a simple "off-line bundle" file ready to 
download. Seems like it shouldn't be too hard to include in the WiX build 
process, and would make a lot of people's lives easier. Realistically, I 
don't think there's a better solution than utilizing the built-in file 
downloader in a web browser for pulling in the archive. Anything else just 
makes it more complicated and unfamiliar for the user...


Dog-fooding is a great idea; having a web setup available is a good idea 
for that reason. Just don't make this the only option... Here's an idea: 
have the capability of providing both web setups and generating premade 
off-line bundles ready for download and dog-food that. I'm sure many setup 
authors (myself included) will want to provide only premade off-line 
bundles, or both premade off-line bundles and web setups (i.e. having more 
than *just* a web setup). Dog-food that! :)


-----Original Message-----

From: Tobias S [mailto:tobias.s1...@gmail.com]

Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2012 09:22

To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.

Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Wow!


Interesting discussion. That brought me to the point to run wix36.exe 
/layout. As expected in a firewall protected company environment the web 
bootstrapper didn't work (see below log). Also I expect different behaviors 
in different company environments using different "web download proxy virus 
scanners" (or as these things are called). I think doing an implementation 
for all that is almost impossible.


But what about an approach to spend burn an additional parameter to get a 
list of URLs (e.g. /downloadurls ). Imho almost every firewall should be 
able to handle manual downloading of MSI files. Not very comfortable but at 
least an approach to get an offline image in a company environment...


Regards,

Tobias


[1BE8:1094][2012-03-06T10:10:56]: Caching bundle from:

'C:\Users\MyUser\AppData\Local\Temp\{53bade28-8480-4557-92fc-13a20c501a3e}\.


be\WiX36.exe'

to: 'C:\ProgramData\Package

Cache\{53bade28-8480-4557-92fc-13a20c501a3e}\WiX36.exe'

[1BE8:1094][2012-03-06T10:10:56]: Registering bundle dependency

provider: {53bade28-8480-4557-92fc-13a20c501a3e}, version: 3.6.2627.0

[1D50:1394][2012-03-06T10:11:17]: Error 0x80072efd: Failed to send request 
to URL:

http://wixtoolset.org/releases/3.6.2627.0/data/core.msi

[1D50:1394][2012-03-06T10:11:17]: Error 0x80072efd: Failed to send request 
to URL:

http://wixtoolset.org/releases/3.6.2627.0/data/core.msi

[1D50:1394][2012-03-06T10:11:17]: Error 0x80072efd: Failed to connect to

URL: http://wixtoolset.org/releases/3.6.2627.0/data/core.msi

[1D50:1394][2012-03-06T10:11:17]: Error 0x80072efd: Failed to get size and 
time for URL:

http://wixtoolset.org/releases/3.6.2627.0/data/core.msi

[1D50:1394][2012-03-06T10:11:17]: Error 0x80072efd: Failed attempt to 
download URL: 'http://wixtoolset.org/releases/3.6.2627.0/data/core.msi'

to:

'C:\Users\MyUser\AppData\Local\Temp\{53bade28-8480-4557-92fc-13a20c501a3e}\W


ix'

[1D50:1394][2012-03-06T10:11:17]: Error 0x80072efd: Failed to acquire 
payload from: 'http://wixtoolset.org/releases/3.6.2627.0/data/core.msi'

to working path:

'C:\Users\MyUser\AppData\Local\Temp\{53bade28-8480-4557-92fc-13a20c501a3e}\W


ix'

[1D50:1394][2012-03-06T10:11:17]: Failed to acquire payload: Wix to 
working

path:

C:\Users\MyUser\AppData\Local\Temp\{53bade28-8480-4557-92fc-13a20c501a3e}\Wi


x,

error: 0x80072efd.


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