Hi Jan-Bart and others, I would hope we can wait until we hear the results of the review before jumping to the conclusion that what has gone on is "highly irregular" (which incidentally, clearly *is *an accusation of wrong doing). There are certainly allegations that have been made that are of serious concern but I would hope people are able to wait to see the evidence and the report before assuming they are well founded.
In the meantime, everyone involved is clearly going through a very difficult time so I hope we are able to pull together, work through this and we can come through a stronger chapter at the end. Regards, On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 6:17 PM, Jan-Bart de Vreede <jdevre...@wikimedia.org > wrote: > Hi > > It doesn't work like that, as I indicated there have been some (highly) > irregular activities in the past months (which is not the same as what you > state below). The timing is such that a decision on Payment Processing > (which is indeed not the same as fundraising or applying to the FDC, but is > actually quite separate) had to be made now. After what I know was a lot of > consultation both ways this is the conclusion that we arrived at. > > Please don't read more into this than that. Its not a power grab and its > not an accusation of wrongdoing, its what we feel is the right thing to do > under the difficult circumstances. > > (oh and payment processing is actually work, it does not get done > automatically) > > Jan-Bart de Vreede > Wikimedia Board of Trustees > > > On 29 Sep 2012, at 19:07, Katie Chan <k...@ktchan.info> wrote: > > > On 29/09/2012 16:28, Jan-bart de Vreede wrote: > >> Hi James (and others) > >> > >> What I find puzzling in your reasoning is that you automatically assume > >> bad faith on the part of the WMF. At this point everyone should be > >> concerned about the fact that over the past months we have had several > >> (highly) irregular activities within the UK chapter. It is important > >> that we (as in the movement) conduct a thorough review to see what the > >> complete facts are so that we can make sure that we can learn from this > >> and draw proper conclusions. > > > > Woah, hold it right there Jan-bart. What *I* find puzzling is how you > (personally and WMF in general) assumes that Wikimedia UK has done wrong > before this supposedly independent review has started never mind been > completed. > > > > KTC > > > > -- > > Experience is a good school but the fees are high. > > - Heinrich Heine > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia UK mailing list > > wikimediau...@wikimedia.org > > http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l > > WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia UK mailing list > wikimediau...@wikimedia.org > http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l > WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org > -- Andrew Turvey -- 07403 216 991 @AndrewTurvey <https://twitter.com/#!/AndrewTurvey> http://www.facebook.com/andrew.turvey http://en.wikipedia.org/User:AndrewRT http://englishwikipedian.blogspot.co.uk/
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