Thank you, Tasleemah! Jayantilal, please refrain from assuming that I have taken asylum in Canada. Please stop attacking personally another Wikimedian and digging up their personal lives. Stay on the subject, not people you don't agree with. People ought to disagree on their stands on a subject. That neither makes them enemies or requires personal attack.
Everything I'm writing here is in my personal capacity and is purely about this issue, rather than any individual. Sudhanwa, Yohann and you are members of this community, and I have nothing against you, though you and Sudhanwa have sadly chosen to personally attack me rather than discussing the issue at hand. I'm sure you've read the Wikipedia article lede about OpIndia that says, "OpIndia is an Indian right-wing news website known for frequently publishing misinformation.". And yet you choose to call their post a "report" and attack me personally. Secondly, the ANI Wikipedia entry says: 'Long-form reports by The Caravan and The Ken, along with reports by other media watchdogs have detailed how the agency has served as a propaganda tool of the incumbent government." What's very clear is that the Wikipedia entry merely cites prior reports published and available publicly. Wikipedia does is *NOT* a primary source of information. Anyone who has made any serious Wikipedia edits, would know that already. Mishi Choudhary, a renowned lawyer and free software advocate has written about this in her recent tweet: https://x.com/MishiChoudhary/status/1832527564541186071?t=rmQdJUUag5GK2NhYp3fwdA&s=19 Lastly, the Wikimedia community is not responsible for what's published in the Ken and the Caravan reports. I haven't personally edited the ANI article, but would assume good faith that the Wikipedians who have contributed to the same have summarized news reports and cited those reports. That to me is how Wikipedia articles are written. Since Wikimedia Foundation manages the Wikipedia servers, the honourable court must have summoned them. Jayantilal, you chose to ignore the Trust and Safety contact I shared but it would valuable to reach out to them and inform about your worries. They are good people and are trained to handle community safety and security-related issues. In my last email I merely pointed out that WMF staffers that are not a part of the T&S team wouldn't know the best recourse. I don't know much what's happening with WCI but that's unrelated and I wouldn't assume that any professional doing their job is oblivious to a real issue and is focusing on an event. That said, the issue is real and need WMF's attention. Ad hominem is the last way to solve it. Subhashish On Tue, 10 Sept, 2024, 2:35 am abdulkareem tesleemah, <[email protected]> wrote: > I have also reached out to the chair of the WMF BoT, I don't know if it > that will help speed up the process from the legal end. > > Regards, > Tesleemah. > > On Tue, 10 Sept 2024, 07:09 abdulkareem tesleemah, <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> This article released by opindia is flawed in all angles. Continually >> dragging editors is the highest of it and using the openness of the >> community against it, or how many community can you access that much >> information? This is a propaganda and a backlash on all Wikimedia editors, >> not just the community in India. >> >> Looking forward to back up plans by the legal committee and the >> administrators from india as I am sure this issue will be addressed soon. >> >> >> >> On Tue, 10 Sept 2024, 03:26 Jayantilal Kothari, <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> >>> https://www.opindia.com/2024/09/opindia-wikipedia-full-research-paper-left-bias-financial-links-india-law/?s=08 >>> >>> >>> Hello, >>> >>> Please check this report, while I don't really agree with what's said >>> here in any way, I am worried because we volunteers don't know what steps >>> are being taken if any. I won't be surprised if WMF is more interested in >>> collecting funds from fundraising and ignoring high court and the backlash. >>> >>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1bkwkylx0KcfSGnyVkhEApeJfIkTwVdjf/view?usp=drive_link >>> >>> >>> They are even writing on Google and Wikimedia Foundation and calling our >>> editors anti-national. This needs to be stopped. >>> >>> Subhashish, while it may be easy for you to dismiss these issues while >>> taking asylum in Canada, please see the emotional torture this takes on >>> other sincere editors and volunteers in India. After years of passionate >>> volunteering, they now find themselves unjustly shamed. This is absolutely >>> ridiculous. >>> >>> I am loyal to both my country and to Wikipedia - they are intertwined in >>> my heart. Yet, I find myself increasingly disappointed with the actions—or >>> inactions—of certain Wikimedia employees. It is high time look beyond Wiki >>> Conference India plans and take sensible meaningful actions. Our community >>> deserves better. >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Jayantilal >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> >>> On Sat, 7 Sep 2024 at 3:36 AM, Yohann Thomas <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Contempt of court is a very serious matter. >>>> >>>> Generally, the WMF legal team is very prompt to handle such matters. In >>>> the past, the legal team generally hires very good representatives to sort >>>> such issues , but in this case , it looks it's got escalated a bit. >>>> >>>> Hope someone from the WMF legal team replies on the thread. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Yohann >>>> >>>> On Sat, 7 Sept 2024, 05:09 Jayantilal Kothari, <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi, I am sure most of you have already read Delhi Court comments on >>>>> Wikipedia. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/ani-wikipedia-defamation-case-if-you-dont-like-india-delhi-high-courts-tough-talk-for-wikipedia-6496462/amp/1 >>>>> >>>>> As a long time editor most of us don't like such things. We do edits >>>>> based on referencing and not personal interest. There are pages on other >>>>> language Wikipedia which are biased but not English. >>>>> >>>>> Even if someone tries to do it some other editor gets it corrected. >>>>> Now as a Wikipedian I want to know what steps are staff members taking. >>>>> There are so many staff members in India never in history but no one >>>>> is replying. >>>>> >>>>> I have personally tried asking two of them. One person said he does >>>>> not look into it while others told me she is more interested in doing >>>>> WikiConference India 2025. Someone from staff please reply to this present >>>>> situation and inform the volunteers on what steps you are taking. >>>>> >>>>> Please don't treat Indian Courts lightly. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> >>>>> Jayantilal >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> WikimediaIndia-l mailing list -- [email protected] >>>>> To unsubscribe send an email to >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit >>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/postorius/lists/wikimediaindia-l.lists.wikimedia.org/ >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> WikimediaIndia-l mailing list -- [email protected] >>>> To unsubscribe send an email to >>>> [email protected] >>>> To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/postorius/lists/wikimediaindia-l.lists.wikimedia.org/ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> WikimediaIndia-l mailing list -- [email protected] >>> To unsubscribe send an email to >>> [email protected] >>> To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/postorius/lists/wikimediaindia-l.lists.wikimedia.org/ >> >> _______________________________________________ > WikimediaIndia-l mailing list -- [email protected] > To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] > To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit > https://lists.wikimedia.org/postorius/lists/wikimediaindia-l.lists.wikimedia.org/
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