Hi,

It seems that you have some information about the court case. Please share
the same with us. eg. who is representing WMF in the case.

Looks like you have a bias about the news site already !! Very much
contradictory to a normal Wiki editor !!
If the court has accepted the case and asked for details from WMF about it,
WMF should comply with it. I doubt that the court considers the applicant
as a propaganda news site. If there was some malicious interest in the
case, courts would have rejected it immediately.
I believe the court knows about individuals' privacy and their fundamental
rights and the constitution. We don't have to comment about it here.

If WMF can comply with the orders in Germany, what is the problem in
complying with courts in India?
Probably there is a bias by WMF between western developed countries  and
India!!

I suppose there was another case about the maps also. Not sure if that is
still going on or closed by now.
(And about the funding from India? Where does the money go and how?? Not
sure about this...)

This is yet another example when WMF (or the staff or the representative
organisations) does not speak up !!

Hoping to get some formal reply from WMF !!

Regards
Sudhanwa



On Sat, Sep 7, 2024 at 1:05 AM Subhashish <[email protected]> wrote:

> Dear Jayantilal,
>
> Let's call a spade a spade -- the court case is filed by a propaganda news
> site that wants names of Wikimedians when it's a clear violation of their
> privacy, a fundamental right guaranteed to every citizen by the
> constitution.
>
> Asking any staffer (there are over 700 of them) is never useful when WMF
> has a dedicated Trust and Safety team (
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation/Legal/Community_Resilience_and_Sustainability/Trust_and_Safety).
> *Have you written to them asking specific questions?*
>
> I'm going to assume that WMF's counsels are looking into this seriously as
> they constantly monitor such issues and this is discussed on many national
> media in India. I really wonder how writing to WMF via a bunch ot community
> mailing lists, that's completely managed by volunteer Wikimedians, would
> help. At best, this is sensationalist. Also, can any WMF staffer who is not
> directly a part of T&S or legal team know answers to legal and safety
> questions?
> Subhashish
>
> On Fri, 6 Sept, 2024, 3:09 pm Jayantilal Kothari, <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi, I am sure most of you have already read Delhi Court comments on
>> Wikipedia.
>>
>>
>> https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/ani-wikipedia-defamation-case-if-you-dont-like-india-delhi-high-courts-tough-talk-for-wikipedia-6496462/amp/1
>>
>> As a long time editor most of us don't like such things. We do edits
>> based on referencing and not personal interest. There are pages on other
>> language Wikipedia which are biased but not English.
>>
>> Even if someone tries to do it some other editor gets it corrected. Now
>> as a Wikipedian I want to know what steps are staff members taking.
>> There are so many staff members in India never in history but no one is
>> replying.
>>
>> I have personally tried asking two of them. One person said he does not
>> look into it while others told me she is more interested in doing
>> WikiConference India 2025. Someone from staff please reply to this present
>> situation and inform the volunteers on what steps you are taking.
>>
>> Please don't treat Indian Courts lightly.
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Jayantilal
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
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