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From: Nicolas VIGNERON <[email protected]> To: Wikimedia Mailing List <[email protected]> Cc: Bcc: Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2024 18:30:34 +0200 Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Re: Proposal to add a new ranking of Wikipedia languages: Coverage Hi all, Thanks a lot Amir, that's a very interesting perspective on Wikipedias' coverage. I don't think that each Wikipedia notability standard impact that much the score, since if many Wikipedias have an article on a topic then it's probably admissible everywhere (and the French Wikipedia is known to be more restrictive than most Wikipedia but still is second) ; also "small" wikipedia often have "local" specific articles that other "big " WIkipedia may not have ; so it counterbalance a bit by also penalizing the big Wikipedia. I'm more wondering about the impact of the Bonnie & Clyde or Turtle/Tortoise cases (when one Wikipedia have one article on a subject and other Wikipedia have two articles for the same subject), it's probably negligible on the grand total of articles but I'd love to see it quantified. Something also useful would be to have a list of the articles most missing on a Wikipedia. For instance, what is the articles missing on Wikipedia in X that has the most sitelinks? It would be useful for people who don't know what "important" articles to create on their own Wikipedia. Cheers, Nicolas On Sun, 22 Sept 2024 at 09:48, Neurodivergent Netizen < [email protected]> wrote: > The main obstacle I see here is that different language Wikipedias have > differing notability standards, which is inevitable given the different > cultures. I’m not sure how you’d account for that. > > From, > I dream of horses > She/her > > > > > > On Sep 22, 2024, at 6:01 AM, Amir Sarabadani <[email protected]> wrote: > > The topics in whattodo? They are English Wikipedia's wikiprojects but > that's just a tool to help find important articles. Many other tools can be > used too. The ranking I'm proposing doesn't rely on topics. > > Best > > > Am So., 22. Sept. 2024 um 14:19 Uhr schrieb Amir E. Aharoni < > [email protected]>: > >> What are the topics? Is it all the times in Wikidata or something curated? >> >> בתאריך יום א׳, 22 בספט׳ 2024, 08:11, מאת Amir Sarabadani < >> [email protected]>: >> >>> Hi, >>> (sorry I couldn't find a better place to post this) >>> I wrote a proposal in meta to add a new way to rank wikis (along side >>> other rankings). There are more details and result of the measurement in >>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Ladsgroup/coverage_ranking_of_Wikipedia_languages >>> >>> TLDR is that it penalizes a wiki for not having an article that exists >>> in other language, the higher the number of wikis that has the article, the >>> higher the penalty would be, either power of two or power of three (to be >>> decided) of that number. Then wikis with lower penalty rank higher. >>> >>> This incentivizes wikis to create articles in topics that matter and >>> would be read by our readers. >>> >>> I would appreciate your feedback on the talk page of the proposal. Also, >>> if this needs to be brought up in some other venues as well, it would be >>> amazing if I'm told where, so I can bring it up. >>> >>> Thank you! >>> -- >>> Amir (he/him) >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wikimedia-l mailing list -- [email protected], guidelines >>> at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and >>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l >>> Public archives at >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/message/2VKAUHPTXW5C6ZCM4PSUMUW2DLH2JPNU/ >>> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimedia-l mailing list -- [email protected], guidelines >> at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l >> Public archives at >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/message/3DUA3FXQB6M2J4OAAF6QQCLFBJJHR6YI/ >> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] > > > > -- > Amir (he/him) > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list -- [email protected], guidelines > at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > Public archives at > https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/message/JOYZQRQ4GROKY6L273U6PMQMDWW4CQEX/ > To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list -- [email protected], guidelines > at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > Public archives at > https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/message/QGLNODPKIV7A5SUJV75JBI6LZF3OAMKB/ > To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected]
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