On Sunday, April 28, 2013, Risker wrote: > I'd actually suggest the opposite: That the only people eligible to vote > for the three elected seats be active participants within the Wikimedia > projects. That would drop the staff/contractor and advisory board > eligibility. Alternately, let's make everyone eligible, including chapter > staff....but eliminate the chapter-appointed seats and have an election > every year that involves the entire community. > > Risker
Speaking personally, I agree with Risker. > > > > > On 28 April 2013 16:43, Sue Gardner <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Interesting thread, Itzik --- to be honest, I had forgotten that staff > had > > been granted the right to vote regardless of edit count. I wouldn't be > > surprised if the only staff members who do vote are those who would > qualify > > under the edit count requirement anyway. > > > > Seems to me that rather than creating new exemptions from the edit count > > requirement, we might be better off to lower the number of edits required > > so that anybody who's demonstrated interest in the projects would > qualify. > > If edits on meta, mediawiki, outreach, etc., qualify, and we were to > lower > > the edit count requirement, then I think that would be inclusive of > > most/all contributors. Would something like that make sense? > > > > Thanks, > > Sue > > On Apr 28, 2013 1:26 PM, "Andrew Gray" <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > On 28 April 2013 06:15, rupert THURNER <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > also agree to simplify the rules. what i'd really love would be to > > > > better standardize and with it simplify "volunteer community", for > all > > > > elections and votes. and at least my wish would be that people who > > > > donate their time by sending code patches to software considered > > > > essential to run the site are included. > > > > > > The first elections (in 2004) had a simple "three months in the > > > community" rule. After that, we added edit count restrictions. The > > > first election with any "complicated" rules - allowing people in > > > without passing the edit count limits - was 2008, when WMF staff, > > > ex-Board members, *and* "Wikimedia server administrators with shell > > > access" were added. In 2011, this got extended to people who "have > > > commit access and have made at least one commit between 15 May 2010 > > > and 15 May 2011." > > > > > > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Board_elections/2008/en > > > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Board_elections/2011/en > > > > > > So we've already got those in :-) > > > > > > I'm ambivalent about whether it's appropriate to have staff members > > > (those who don't independently qualify as "community members") voting > > > or not, but I think in principle Itzik has a very good point - either > > > *both* WMF and Chapter staff should be able to vote, or *neither* > > > should. I can't see any reason that it's right for a staffer in San > > > Francisco to participate in the election, but it isn't right for one > > > in Berlin! > > > > > > (It may be too late to change anything for this time around, of > > > course, but it would be great if we could ensure consistency in future > > > elections) > > > > > > - Andrew. > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 11:49 PM, Asaf Bartov <[email protected] > > > > > wrote: > > > >> Also agree with Nathan. Those chapter board members who are not > > active > > > on > > > >> the projects already have a far greater relative weight in selecting > > the > > > >> chapter-selected board seats. > > > >> > > > >> A. > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Federico Leva (Nemo) < > > > [email protected]>wrote: > > > >> > > > >>> Nathan, 27/04/2013 21:34: > > > >>> > > > >>> I would go the other way, and limit the participants in the > election > > > >>>> for the community seat to people who are members of the volunteer > > > >>>> community. Presumably that would include most members of most > > > >>>> organizational boards, but only include those staff and other paid > > > >>>> _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
