So in other word’s, The WMF ‘does’ have the final say in who is awarded a scholarship. I was not aware that this is the case. Thank you Ellie , for the clarification. I do believe the program selection should be begun earlier and that there should be some active collaboration between the scholarships approvals systems(s) and those who do the program selections.
Kudpung > On 07, Jun2018, at 00:59, Ellie Young <[email protected]> wrote: > > I'd like to clarify this a bit more: > > The Scholarship committee reviews and scores the applications that make it > into Phase 2. The WMF staff uses these > scores to distribute the scholarships evenly among the groups. These scores > are NOT "mere recommendations". Also, if any person who gets their paper > accepted to the program and cannot attend because they did not receive a > scholarship, the program committee can recommend that we offer them support > via the Wikimania budget. > > Ellie Young > WMF Event Manager > > > On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 9:12 PM, cs <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> > wrote: > I am surprised to learn that the jury’s selection is a mere recommendation > to the WMF. I was not aware of that. > I’m not sure that the program teams are ideally constituted. The choice > of presentations and/or allocations of time slots for various activities > has often left me baffled. > > Kudpung > > >> On 05, Jun2018, at 22:19, DerHexer <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> That's true: >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Wikimania_scholars/Reviewer%27s_guide#Score_adjustment_for_previous_scholars >> >> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Wikimania_scholars/Reviewer%27s_guide#Score_adjustment_for_previous_scholars> >> (that this is not the perfect system is well known to everyone in the >> committee which, as Mardetanha said, changes every year—it's still very hard >> to implement a process which does not favor these who are used to write good >> applications if we don't draw lots). >> >> We had to start the scholarship processes at some point due to visa >> regulations, unfortunately before the program team could finish their >> process. For that reason, the scholarship committee proposed to save some >> money for people who could not hold their presentations without a >> scholarship. But in the end, it's the WMF who thankfully manages all the >> outcomes and the jury only evalutes the applications at some point. >> >> Best, >> Martin/DerHexer >> >> >> Von: Sjoerd de Bruin <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> An: Wikimania general list (open subscription) >> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> Gesendet: 17:15 Freitag, 1.Juni 2018 >> Betreff: Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania-l Digest, Vol 146, Issue 1 >> >> I think that is already included in scholarship applications, if I remember >> correctly. >> >> Greetings, >> >> Sjoerd de Bruin >> >>> Op 1 jun. 2018, om 17:06 heeft Julie Workman <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> het volgende geschreven: >>> >>> Is there at present any metric by which previous scholarship attendees are >>> judged on their dissemination of Wikimania experiences after the >>> conference? The complaint being brought up is not only about awardees >>> getting repeat scholarships, but failing to enrich their communities >>> afterwards with what they learned / what it was like / who they met / what >>> they will do now. With a limited number of scholarships available, it is >>> true that the attendees are expected to share their good fortune with those >>> who couldn't attend. >>> >>> If nothing like that is in place, could it not be added? For example, a >>> field on the application: "were you awarded a scholarship last year (and >>> attended)?" "If yes, please describe (and provide links where possible) to >>> the activities and discussions you organised with your community regarding >>> your experience at Wikimania". If a sufficiently good and detailed response >>> is not provided, the application can receive a lower score (or possibly be >>> discarded...? I'm not au fait with the process). >>> >>> Julia W >>> >>> On 1 June 2018 at 13:00, <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> Send Wikimania-l mailing list submissions to >>> [email protected]. org >>> <mailto:[email protected]> >>> >>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/ mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l >>> <https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l> >>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>> wikimania-l-request@lists. wikimedia.org >>> <mailto:[email protected]> >>> >>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>> wikimania-l-owner@lists. wikimedia.org >>> <mailto:[email protected]> >>> >>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>> than "Re: Contents of Wikimania-l digest..." >>> >>> >>> Today's Topics: >>> >>> 1. Re: Update on Wikimania '18 (Pine W) >>> 2. Re: Update on Wikimania '18 (cs) >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ ------------------------------ ---------- >>> >>> Message: 1 >>> Date: Thu, 31 May 2018 18:31:08 -0700 >>> From: Pine W <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >>> To: "Wikimania general list (open subscription)" >>> <[email protected]. org >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> >>> Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Update on Wikimania '18 >>> Message-ID: >>> <CAF= dyJinVGV5eM7vBi7SFDLcqyLP4yakD [email protected]. >>> com <mailto:[email protected]>> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >>> >>> Harry, I recall hearing that there was a push a year or two back to alter >>> the proportion of presentations at Wikimania so that there were fewer WMF >>> presentations and more community presentations. I don't know if that was a >>> one time event or if that's ongoing. I have never been to Wikimania, and >>> have no plans to go in the foreseeable future, but I watch what happens >>> with Wikimania partly because it's an expensive operation in terms of >>> financial cost and in terms of volunteer time. Also, the scholarship system >>> is a perennial point of friction. >>> >>> Dariusz or Ellie, are there any thoughts at WMF about doing a full review >>> of the scholarship system and the value of Wikimania to the community? With >>> WMF spending so much money on Wikimania year after year, and volunteers >>> spending so much time on Wikimania year after year, I think that it would >>> make sense to do this type of review, which might be possible to >>> synchronize with WMF's strategy process. I am very interested in ensuring >>> that there are SMART goals being achieved with all of the money and time >>> that goes into Wikimania. At the same time, I think that the scholarship >>> system could be reviewed to consider the strategic priorities for >>> scholarships and how to align those priorities to SMART goals. I don't >>> envision reducing funding for Wikimania and scholarships, but I think that >>> some re-thinking and evaluation would be good to align funding with the WMF >>> strategic plan and with SMART goals. >>> >>> Pine >>> ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/ wiki/User:Pine >>> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine> ) >>> >>> On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 12:31 PM, Harry Mitchell <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> >>> > Since you raise chapter scholarships, it would be nice to see some of the >>> > other big chapters (and to some extent the WMF) spending more on >>> > scholarships for rank-and-file Wikimedians rather than staff and board >>> > members. That might help with the perception that Wikimania is the same >>> > old >>> > faces year in, year out. >>> > >>> > Harry Mitchell >>> > http://enwp.org/User:HJ <http://enwp.org/User:HJ> >>> > +44 (0) 7507 536 971 >>> > Skype: harry_j_mitchell >>> > >>> -------------- next part -------------- >>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>> URL: <https://lists.wikimedia.org/ pipermail/wikimania-l/ >>> attachments/20180531/42687ccd/ attachment-0001.html >>> <https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimania-l/attachments/20180531/42687ccd/attachment-0001.html>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 2 >>> Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2018 08:58:35 +0700 >>> From: cs <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >>> To: "Wikimania general list (open subscription)" >>> <[email protected]. org >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> >>> Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Update on Wikimania '18 >>> Message-ID: <28D68047-E5DC-4B96-BF0C- [email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >>> >>> I have attended several Wikimanias. >>> I would have thought that with the Wikipedias being voluntary >>> contributed and managed projects, that the conference shoud have a sharp >>> focus on attendance and presentations by the communities. >>> However, this is not the case. Presentation time is, IMO, excessively >>> allocated to various speakers from the salaried staff. >>> This has been brought up on several occasions. >>> In some instances, some presentations have had almost duplicate content. >>> Many Foundations take on a promotional aspect of the WMF’s work. >>> The credit for the entire movement should go to the community >>> volunteers. >>> >>> Kudpung >>> >>> > On 01, Jun2018, at 08:31, Pine W <[email protected] >>> > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> > >>> > Harry, I recall hearing that there was a push a year or two back to alter >>> > the proportion of presentations at Wikimania so that there were fewer WMF >>> > presentations and more community presentations. I don't know if that was >>> > a one time event or if that's ongoing. I have never been to Wikimania, >>> > and have no plans to go in the foreseeable future, but I watch what >>> > happens with Wikimania partly because it's an expensive operation in >>> > terms of financial cost and in terms of volunteer time. Also, the >>> > scholarship system is a perennial point of friction. >>> > >>> > Dariusz or Ellie, are there any thoughts at WMF about doing a full review >>> > of the scholarship system and the value of Wikimania to the community? >>> > With WMF spending so much money on Wikimania year after year, and >>> > volunteers spending so much time on Wikimania year after year, I think >>> > that it would make sense to do this type of review, which might be >>> > possible to synchronize with WMF's strategy process. I am very interested >>> > in ensuring that there are SMART goals being achieved with all of the >>> > money and time that goes into Wikimania. At the same time, I think that >>> > the scholarship system could be reviewed to consider the strategic >>> > priorities for scholarships and how to align those priorities to SMART >>> > goals. I don't envision reducing funding for Wikimania and scholarships, >>> > but I think that some re-thinking and evaluation would be good to align >>> > funding with the WMF strategic plan and with SMART goals. >>> > >>> > Pine >>> > ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/ wiki/User:Pine >>> > <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/ >>> > wiki/User:Pine <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine>> ) >>> > >>> > On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 12:31 PM, Harry Mitchell <[email protected] >>> > <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected] >>> > <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote: >>> > Since you raise chapter scholarships, it would be nice to see some of the >>> > other big chapters (and to some extent the WMF) spending more on >>> > scholarships for rank-and-file Wikimedians rather than staff and board >>> > members. That might help with the perception that Wikimania is the same >>> > old faces year in, year out. >>> > >>> > Harry Mitchell >>> > http://enwp.org/User:HJ <http://enwp.org/User:HJ> >>> > <http://enwp.org/User:HJ <http://enwp.org/User:HJ>> >>> > +44 (0) 7507 536 971 >>> > Skype: harry_j_mitchell >>> > >>> > ______________________________ _________________ >>> > Wikimania-l mailing list >>> > [email protected]. org <mailto:[email protected]> >>> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/ mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l >>> > <https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l> >>> >>> -------------- next part -------------- >>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>> URL: <https://lists.wikimedia.org/ pipermail/wikimania-l/ >>> attachments/20180601/da922580/ attachment-0001.html >>> <https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimania-l/attachments/20180601/da922580/attachment-0001.html>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Subject: Digest Footer >>> >>> ______________________________ _________________ >>> Wikimania-l mailing list >>> [email protected]. org <mailto:[email protected]> >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/ mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l >>> <https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> End of Wikimania-l Digest, Vol 146, Issue 1 >>> ****************************** ************* >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wikimania-l mailing list >>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l >>> <https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimania-l mailing list >> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l >> <https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimania-l mailing list >> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l >> <https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l> > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimania-l mailing list > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l > <https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l> > > > > > -- > Ellie Young > Events Manager > Wikimedia Foundation > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>c. 510 701 8649 > _______________________________________________ > Wikimania-l mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l
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