First of all I apologize. The expression "this thread is not going anywhere" was not appropriate. User input was valuable. What I meant to say it that there was no consensus on a policy in this regard other than stated, therefore statistically, I did not expect more comments to change that.
One correction. I have not taken any side on the issue. I have just reported a possible problem that some users have reported to me. Another correction. I did not close this thread. I suggested that perhaps we should close it because it is better if this discussion stops and we leave things as they are. Hopefully this thread has contributed to more awareness on the issue but the issue itself is not a subject of this mailing list. I do not think anybody should be saddened this this thread. people think differently, believe in different things and sometimes they disagree. That is a fact of life. The good thing is that even if there may be beliefs that divide us we can still find us something that unites us and gets us to talk to each other. This list is a place where people from different countries and different backgrounds don't just talk to each other but talk with respect and treat others as pears. I think this is something to be happy about. Massimo On Oct 14, 1:44 am, Gour <g...@atmarama.net> wrote: > On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 16:33:58 -0700 (PDT) > Massimo Di Pierro > > <massimo.dipie...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Dear Massimo, > > > Yes perhaps we should close this thread. I do not see it going > > anywhere. > > I do not agree with your conclusion... > > > I think we can all agree that: "We welcome people of any gender > > identity or expression, race, ethnicity, size, nationality, sexual > > orientation, ability level, religion, culture, subculture, and > > political opinion" (from > >http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/diversity) > > This is nice. > > > We can also agree that any comment that is intentionally offending or > > discriminating other users and groups will not be tolerating. This > > never happened and I am confident it will not. > > First of all you have started this thread with "IMPORTANT" subject and wrote > that: > > "Some people have expressed their believes (political, > religious, metaphysical) but occasionally when this conflicts with > believes of another person, the other person may feel offended. It has > happened." > > and clarified it did not happen in the body of the message, but "In > those cases when religious or political statement was made, it was > done in the form of a signature." > > Further, you suggested: "Perhaps having a policy that says we should make no > political/ religious/philosophical statements is the simplest policy to > implement." although majority of courageous users who openly reveled their > mind > in this thread (almost) univocally said that for them there is NO issue and > suggested "live and let live" policy. > > Moreover, it was confirmed (in majority) that people are not bothered what > someone puts in his signature until it's not against other beliefs, attacking > other groups etc. and conclusion of majority users is that so far, there was > nothing against such policy posted here, either in the content or in the > signature. > > Your original statetment was, however, re-inforcing the point that there is an > issue: > > "The problem with this issue is that..." and "I am just telling > everybody there is an issue. Some people have been raising it > privately. You may want to think twice about what you put in your > emails. You may get more people to help you if you are neutral." > > suggesting that users should think about what is put in their email, iow. > signature. > > So, according to my understanding, you, somehow, took the side of minority > users who complained (most of them privately) although it's in clear > opposition > what the majority of users think here which means that those minority users > were actually acting contrary to the, so far, unexpressed policy and they are > the ones which should apologize! > > Moreover, at least, the feelings of one user were hurt in the process ("This > thread has saddened me, however.") and Johann is old web2py user (Gmane here > finds his first post at Sun, 14 Jun 2009), so, based on everything above, I > cannot conclude how this thread "...I do not see it going anywhere."? > > Just the opposite...users expressed their view that the policy should be "live > and let live" and that, so far, it was not broken by anybody either by posting > 'forbidden' content in the body of the message nor in the form of someone's > signature. Iow, your 'bug report' should be marked as 'invalid'. ;) > > I very much appreciate everything what you do for web2py project, but I must > say that I have expected some more maturity in handling this whole issue which > hurts some people. > > Hoping that you will take my post as constructive criticism and not more. > > Sincerely, > Gour > > -- > “In the material world, conceptions of good and bad are > all mental speculations…” (Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu) > > http://atmarama.net| Hlapicina (Croatia) | GPG: 52B5C810 > > signature.asc > < 1KViewDownload
