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Em 14/10/2011 16:15, "Gour" <g...@atmarama.net> escreveu:
>
> On Fri, 14 Oct 2011 11:27:20 -0300
> Bruno Rocha <rochacbr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > sometime ago I have been contacted by an user of this list asking me
> > help for a project.
> >
> > After some messages, this user wanted me to develop an e-store for his
> > client. A big company and this would be a great project (he would pay
> > a large ammount of money for me)
> >
> > so I discovered that it was a hunting stuff e-store. to sell hunting
> > weapons and taxidermy stuff.
> >
> > I reject the job and for sure I did not helped him directly with this.
>
> I would probably do the same...but that falls into case where someone is
openly
> against some group, principles etc.
>
> > I am vegan and animal rights activist (abolitionist) for me is no go
> > to work in a project where animal exploitation is directly the goal.
>
> I fully agree with that, but what is the difference if e.g. you're helping
the
> project which has animal exploatation as its goal or you're helping people
to
> make money in some other project and buy meat in the butcher shop?

no difference and I do not support any case. but eating meat is a cultural
thing and sometimed I agree it is/was needed.

btw, hunting is completelly superfluous, this is no more a cultural habit
and we have laws againt it in some places. I agree both cases are
exploitation but different in therms of tolerance.

>
> Don't be in illusion that your karmic share is much different in the
latter case.

sorry, but I dont believe in karma or things like that.

>
> > also I will never directly work/help projects with any kind of
> > racism, sexism or speciesism.
>
> However, I would not mix *belief* and *deeds*.

BTW I have no *belief*

>
> People complained about the religious BELIEF (maybe I am also included)
which
> Johann expresses in his signature and not about what he DOES which, imho,
makes
> a big difference.
sometimes religious says and teach people how to perform racism, sexism or
speciesism, because of that I give it as example.
but I persinally dont care about it.

>
> You're aware that the leader of this project is non-vegetarian and I buy
his
> book I'm helping him to buy the meat.
completelly different situation, all the world is doing animal exploitation
(may be I am included in some cases) but there are people who agree with the
benefits of less exploitation.
this is a conplicate subject and may be we can discuss ut in another
channel.

>
> Still, I feel that if I receive something from someone (web2py in this
case)
> who puts his time, energy etc. into it, then, there is no harm by
contributing
> back.

as I say. I always contribute with everyone and with the project, I just
dont fell confortable to work directly with things who breaks my principles.

>
> Moreover, after coming to know that our leader is non-vegetarian does not
make
> him less worthy in my eyes...I was also born as meat-eater and by showing
nice
> example to other people, we may help them to raise their consciousness and
> awareness.

Yes, and it is true.  nobody is less worthy as you said. Every being in this
world has the same rights.

>
> Here is inspiring post from someone I highly admire (knowing him from my
> Haskell times) who is religious person showing nice attitude towards those
who
> are different. (higgly recommended to read!)
>
>
http://changelog.complete.org/archives/7253-an-incredible-story-from-soviet-times

I will take a look

>
>
> Sincerely,
> Gour
>
>
> --
> “In the material world, conceptions of good and bad are
> all mental speculations…” (Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu)

Suffering, Slaughter, Starvation, Prejudice are bad for any kind of being
and I know it is not a mental speculation.

>
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>
>

I agree we have to *let it be* and focus this community only in technical
issues.

other things we can discuss in another channel or privatelly.

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