http://zerp.ly/rochacbruno Em 14/10/2011 16:15, "Gour" <g...@atmarama.net> escreveu: > > On Fri, 14 Oct 2011 11:27:20 -0300 > Bruno Rocha <rochacbr...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > sometime ago I have been contacted by an user of this list asking me > > help for a project. > > > > After some messages, this user wanted me to develop an e-store for his > > client. A big company and this would be a great project (he would pay > > a large ammount of money for me) > > > > so I discovered that it was a hunting stuff e-store. to sell hunting > > weapons and taxidermy stuff. > > > > I reject the job and for sure I did not helped him directly with this. > > I would probably do the same...but that falls into case where someone is openly > against some group, principles etc. > > > I am vegan and animal rights activist (abolitionist) for me is no go > > to work in a project where animal exploitation is directly the goal. > > I fully agree with that, but what is the difference if e.g. you're helping the > project which has animal exploatation as its goal or you're helping people to > make money in some other project and buy meat in the butcher shop?
no difference and I do not support any case. but eating meat is a cultural thing and sometimed I agree it is/was needed. btw, hunting is completelly superfluous, this is no more a cultural habit and we have laws againt it in some places. I agree both cases are exploitation but different in therms of tolerance. > > Don't be in illusion that your karmic share is much different in the latter case. sorry, but I dont believe in karma or things like that. > > > also I will never directly work/help projects with any kind of > > racism, sexism or speciesism. > > However, I would not mix *belief* and *deeds*. BTW I have no *belief* > > People complained about the religious BELIEF (maybe I am also included) which > Johann expresses in his signature and not about what he DOES which, imho, makes > a big difference. sometimes religious says and teach people how to perform racism, sexism or speciesism, because of that I give it as example. but I persinally dont care about it. > > You're aware that the leader of this project is non-vegetarian and I buy his > book I'm helping him to buy the meat. completelly different situation, all the world is doing animal exploitation (may be I am included in some cases) but there are people who agree with the benefits of less exploitation. this is a conplicate subject and may be we can discuss ut in another channel. > > Still, I feel that if I receive something from someone (web2py in this case) > who puts his time, energy etc. into it, then, there is no harm by contributing > back. as I say. I always contribute with everyone and with the project, I just dont fell confortable to work directly with things who breaks my principles. > > Moreover, after coming to know that our leader is non-vegetarian does not make > him less worthy in my eyes...I was also born as meat-eater and by showing nice > example to other people, we may help them to raise their consciousness and > awareness. Yes, and it is true. nobody is less worthy as you said. Every being in this world has the same rights. > > Here is inspiring post from someone I highly admire (knowing him from my > Haskell times) who is religious person showing nice attitude towards those who > are different. (higgly recommended to read!) > > http://changelog.complete.org/archives/7253-an-incredible-story-from-soviet-times I will take a look > > > Sincerely, > Gour > > > -- > “In the material world, conceptions of good and bad are > all mental speculations…” (Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu) Suffering, Slaughter, Starvation, Prejudice are bad for any kind of being and I know it is not a mental speculation. > > http://atmarama.net | Hlapicina (Croatia) | GPG: 52B5C810 > > I agree we have to *let it be* and focus this community only in technical issues. other things we can discuss in another channel or privatelly.