I tend to agree there, when I originally created pyforum, the main
point of it was to (1) have an message board for the community, never
to replace (or even become) the official web2py discussion area, (2)
to show the world that we are very capable of "eating our own dog
food" (without choking).

For example, I'd like to add a "Job Board" in pyforum where potential
projects could be added looking for web2py programmers, or a section
of "Job Snippets" where devs can analyze snippets of code and
encourage peer reviews, etc, etc, all this should be handled IMO in
its own realm, pyforum aims to be that realm.

HTH,

Thanks! - Julio

On Aug 31, 7:45 am, mdipierro <mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu> wrote:
> I think Pyforum si excellent we should find some use for it in our
> community. The problem is that this mailing list has become the main
> reference point. Moving the discussion somewhere else now will cause
> confusion. Moreover having google ake care of our data is a big plus.
> If this data were to get lost it would be a big loss for this
> community. I doubt anybody would want to take on this responsibility
> and I do not want to give anybody this responsibility.
>
> Massimo
>
> On Aug 31, 9:39 am, Julio <ju...@techfuel.net> wrote:
>
> > Yes, pyforum is (still) tied up to MySQL, let me correct that, it is
> > tied up to any RDBMS (MySQL, Postgres and possibly MSSQL), the reason
> > is only one single query (out of the literally dozens) that I need to
> > port to the DAL, a "nasty" query in a sense of that it gives you lots
> > of information in one single call (it generates the entire main page
> > in a second or less).
>
> > As for the other question that popped up before, yes, google, openId
> > is on the plate.
>
> > The two items I just mentioned are at the top of my list.
>
> > Thanks,
>
> > Julio
>
> > On Aug 30, 6:05 pm, Yarko Tymciurak <yark...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > also, is pyforms still tied to MySQL?  It would be good to update for
> > > DAL usage (e.g. db independent), and would be interesting to see it
> > > running on GAE.
>
> > > On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 8:05 PM, Yarko Tymciurak<yark...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > better or worse, the best place for information is where people use
> > > > it, and questions and answers accumulate (e.g. content trumps function
> > > > to a large degree).  Ultimately, people will go where they can find
> > > > answers (either through replies or searching).  In general, even the
> > > > forums are google searchable, so the forums themselves would have to
> > > > be searched / searchable by google indexing (how does work for
> > > > database-stored content?)
>
> > > > On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 7:44 PM, JorgeR<jorgeh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > >> I dont like to have a clugged email box. So, for instance, I dont
> > > >> receive email updates from this group, and from no other, really.
>
> > > >> A forum is better organized given that it has sub forums and the
> > > >> threads are more easy to search-find.
>
> > > >> Google groups has been ok when the user base is still a newborn.
>
> > > >> But we must prepare for bigtime, and the best way is a forum.
>
> > > >> On Aug 30, 7:25 pm, Richard <richar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >>> I really like pyforum and consider it the best available web2py app
> > > >>> out there.
>
> > > >>> However Google Groups has worked well - no downtime, low amount of
> > > >>> spam, good search support, email updates, etc. (It is a much better
> > > >>> system than Yahoo Groups.)
> > > >>> Is pyforum ready for all that?
> > > >>> And I like with Google Groups that I can use my existing Google
> > > >>> account and not have to remember another password. Are there plans to
> > > >>> add OpenID support to pyforum?
>
> > > >>> Also what would be done about the discussions created until now? Could
> > > >>> they be exported? Because I personally use this group more for
> > > >>> searching old threads with the same problem as me than asking new
> > > >>> questions.
>
> > > >>> If people are keen on pyforum perhaps the new python-developers
> > > >>> mailing list could try it first.
>
> > > >>> Richard
>
> > > >>> On Aug 30, 6:18 am, Julio <ju...@techfuel.net> wrote:
>
> > > >>> > I am up for it :)
>
> > > >>> > I do believe pyforum is ready for prime time (though for obvious
> > > >>> > reasons I am a bit biased), Being in this wonderful group I kinda 
> > > >>> > know
> > > >>> > who is who in a way, so I'd be happy to give admin to anyone here 
> > > >>> > that
> > > >>> > requires it, just so you get a "feel" of the administrative area of
> > > >>> > pyForum, something few have been able to experience.
>
> > > >>> > The way I see it, pyForum is a good "start" and it's been stable 
> > > >>> > since
> > > >>> > the 1.x release, another interesting thing about it is that the 
> > > >>> > server
> > > >>> > is physically located in Chicago IL (though I live in Washington
> > > >>> > (state)).
>
> > > >>> > pyForum has some nifty things that are handled in the back-end, such
> > > >>> > as batch notification emails ran via cron job, auto-removal of 
> > > >>> > out-of-
> > > >>> > date administrator requests, also has a PM Messaging system for 
> > > >>> > member-
> > > >>> > to-member communications, complete user management and system
> > > >>> > configuration TTW, I do still think though, I need a (new) 
> > > >>> > logo/title
> > > >>> > for the site, as I think my strengths are more in the back-end 
> > > >>> > process
> > > >>> > rather than UI.
>
> > > >>> > Even if Massimo/Yarko want to move it to their own servers I am also
> > > >>> > fine with that., as with all software there are several "gotchas" 
> > > >>> > (I'd
> > > >>> > like to thing of them as "paradigms" or "patterns" :) ) that one 
> > > >>> > need
> > > >>> > to understand to implement it properly, but it is still an easy 
> > > >>> > system
> > > >>> > to install.
>
> > > >>> > Cheers,
>
> > > >>> > Julio
>
> > > >>> > On Aug 29, 11:51 am, "mr.freeze" <nat...@freezable.com> wrote:
>
> > > >>> > > Also, I think a web framework that eats it's own dog food is more
> > > >>> > > convincing.
>
> > > >>> > > On Aug 29, 1:34 pm, "mr.freeze" <nat...@freezable.com> wrote:
>
> > > >>> > > > Whoops! I was looking at the topic count but I still think 
> > > >>> > > > google
> > > >>> > > > groups suck.  It seems like the search doesn't go back very far 
> > > >>> > > > and
> > > >>> > > > nothing is categorized so it's not a good reference.
>
> > > >>> > > > On Aug 29, 12:04 pm, Jonathan Lundell <jlund...@pobox.com> 
> > > >>> > > > wrote:
>
> > > >>> > > > > On Aug 29, 2009, at 9:33 AM, mr.freeze wrote:
>
> > > >>> > > > > > Google is eating our messages.  It shows only 4625 
> > > >>> > > > > > messages.  Massimo
> > > >>> > > > > > does that many in a week :)  web2py should use pyforum 
> > > >>> > > > > > instead and
> > > >>> > > > > > take back control!
>
> > > >>> > > > > Are you sure? When I looked just now 
> > > >>> > > > > <http://groups.google.com/group/web2py?hl=en
> > > >>> > > > >  >, it had 29347 messages. I haven't noticed any dropped 
> > > >>> > > > > messages; I
> > > >>> > > > > wonder if perhaps somebody's spam filter isn't doing the 
> > > >>> > > > > eating (in
> > > >>> > > > > which case switching pyforum isn't going to help).
>
>
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