"From what I see here in France, most web development courses are
still
php/java oriented. That's many people to convert but conversion is
easy ^_^ "

That's interesting. Considering Guido started the Python precursor
language in Europe, I would have expected a big following there.

As it is, MIT, one of the big name universities here has switched to
Python as its standard programming language for instruction and basic
research.

On May 13, 7:20 am, desfrenes <desfre...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Both Django and Web2Py are in a niche, I mean if your main concern was
> really long-term support and diffusion you would probably use one of
> the main php frameworks anyway.
>
> As for the choice between Django and Web2py, like others I first tried
> Django but I found that it's main killer-feature (the admin) was not
> that usefull except for CMS-type application for trusted users. In any
> other areas, I found web2py much easier for day-to-day use:
>
> - no bloody limited template syntax,just plain python. Why learn
> another language, what's the point? I know: "separation of concerns",
> "non-programmer template designer", blah blah... f*** it :-P
> - really easy way to distribute applications (click and your app is
> packed !)
> - automatic migrations ! a real time-saver.
> - less code to write and less code to remember (you don't have to
> import basic framework stuff)
> - nice exception handling/ticketing system
> - great way to create web services (as I discovered last week)
> - default routes: I really hated the fact that in Django you have to
> define your routes.
> - "portable", in a sense that it is also very easy to install a full
> development stack (well... install... just unzip). Very nice to get
> your collegues up and running in a minute
> - very nice interface for internationalization.
>
> and dozens of other little things that really make your everyday tasks
> just easier, that's more important than a temporary "wow!" effect.
>
> "Consider this: practically every school/college/university in
> the country has switched to Python in their intro sequence programming
> courses within the last 3 years. "
>
> From what I see here in France, most web development courses are still
> php/java oriented. That's many people to convert but conversion is
> easy ^_^
>
> On May 13, 10:47 am, Timmie <timmichel...@gmx-topmail.de> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
>
> > > present project (webgis field). So probably you'll see me very active
>
> > good that you wrote about your area.
>
> > Below you can see some posts/threads and links regarding the current
> > web2py GIS/mapping capabilities.
> > -> Fran & I have successfuly operated openlayers but still have
> > problems fetching external data like KML or GeoRSS
> > -> google-maps was integrated in the pycon site
>
> > General capabilites are there.
> > If you read the post below you can see that there are two schools:
> > Integrate other tools under the hood of the framework (current web2py
> > and turbogears) or build comple sptial prcessing capabilities in teh
> > framework (geodjango).
>
> > To my opinion, a _web_ framework should focus on web presentation and
> > rely on special tools that are made by professionals on their field
> > for other tasks.
> > E.g. GRASS GIS can run on a server and is high level. There are
> > examples how to use it.
> > Further processing is provided by other tools like gispython, mapfish
> > etc.
> > This community is well focused on delivering efficient webapp
> > programming.
> > Others have excellent GIS support.
>
> > Please post your ideas.
>
> > Regards,
> > Timmie
>
> > ###
> > Links:https://launchpad.net/web2py-geo
>
> > Posts:
> > * web2py team & Geo/GIS project created at 
> > Launchpad:http://groups.google.com/group/web2py/browse_thread/thread/87d1b119fc...
> > * javascript proxy 
> > issue:http://groups.google.com/group/web2py/browse_thread/thread/c59e315074...
> > * using web2py for Geo / GIS 
> > stuff:http://groups.google.com/group/web2py/browse_thread/thread/bb9a65eb7d...
> > * Non-relational 
> > databases:http://groups.google.com/group/web2py/msg/4f281e7cd6fafcf0
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