I agree. Consider this: practically every school/college/university in the country has switched to Python in their intro sequence programming courses within the last 3 years. These people are hitting the job market now. This means in the long term it should be easy for any company to find Python programmers.
It is also instructive to look at the popularity trends (google.com/ trends) of "ruby on rails", "php" and "turbogears". Unfortunatly trends does not work very well with web2py (because it is too recent) and Django (because of too many name conflicts). Massimo On May 12, 11:46 pm, JohnMc <maruadventu...@gmail.com> wrote: > I would offer one other suggestion. > > - If standards committee are part of any assessment process; consider > pitching Python as the language being used for the development. > > This would be especially true if Python is on the 'approved' stds list > in the company. > > JohnMc > > On May 12, 5:19 pm, mdipierro <mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu> wrote: > > > If you have made up your mind about using web2py and you have to go > > through committees to have it approved you should consider: > > > - print a copy > > ofhttp://mdp.cti.depaul.edu/examples/static/web2py_vs_others.pdf > > (outdated but better than nothing) > > - make list of open issues and bug reports for web2py and competing > > frameworks > > - check responsiveness of mailing lists by asking web2py/dago/rails/ > > etc the same questions. > > - getting a quote for professional support time from one of the > > associated companies > > > Massimo > > > On May 12, 3:28 pm, JohnMc <maruadventu...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > I will give you a perspective from someone who comes from a web/php - > > > cakephp perspective -- > > > > On May 12, 4:30 am, giohappy <gioha...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Dear web2py group, > > > > I'm going to adobt a python web application framework for my next > > > > works, and until yesterday I was oriented to Django, as it seems to > > > > give me the best tradoff between simplicity, rapidity, power, etc > > > > I initially went the route, Django, as you were considering. I was > > > about 1/3rd the way though a small application before I noticed a > > > trend. In many cases to have the behaviors I wanted from Django I was > > > ripping out small code segments and replacing them with others. I have > > > generally never experienced that level of retrofit in a framework > > > before. > > > > So I dug a little deeper and website ever website I visited I saw this > > > trend. One went so far as to recommend pulling out the ORM and > > > replacing it with another! That in my mind leads to compatibility > > > issues, training concerns if its a large team effort, etc. At that > > > point I put the cursor down and looked elsewhere. > > > > > A friend of mine ha suggested me to have a look at web2py, and I admit > > > > I've been impressed by its features.... but as always, when one has to > > > > choose a technology on which to invest, the diffusion and the long- > > > > term support are other foundamental features to evaluate it. > > > > So my 1 billion $ question is: the web2py community seems to be > > > > growing, but it's two order of magnitude smaller the django's, and the > > > > google group activity is considered "low" respect to the "high" > > > > django's group. > > > > Django has had a headstart for one. But I would not configure > > > community size alone in your decision. The more important issue is -- > > > do you get answers? I have not been disappointed. Its developed into a > > > fair team of responders. > > > > What's you trend analysis? Would you suggest adopting > > > > > web2py for a long-term investment? I ask, possibily, for an "unbiased" > > > > answer, as I'm going to adopt it as a backend for a public > > > > infrastructure backend... don't put me in a bad situation! :) > > > > This is a two edged sword. > > > > A) If you have to go before a committee to get funding to do the > > > project Web2Py will be a harder sell than say pitching the project to > > > be done in Rails or TurboGears or Django. Its a mind perception > > > thing. > > > > B) When the project is done, you delivered under budget and weeks > > > ahead of time and the Director is pitching it in a slide deck at the > > > next quarterly meeting WHAT the project was done in will be the > > > furtherest thing from management's mind. > > > > The quandary is of course how do you overcome (A) to make (B) a > > > reality? Whenever I have faced (A) with management a prototype usually > > > sells it. There is one core problem that management wishes solved. > > > Write a Web2Py controller(s) for it, put a simple pretty face on it > > > and take that into the proposal meeting. The fact that they see the > > > problem almost resolved overcomes (A) and issues about what it was > > > written on is forgotten before the meeting is adjourned. (It also > > > eliminates your doubt it can be done, as you just did it.) > > > > Long term investment. Is that in reference to your time/career or the > > > projects? For a project, I am surprised if a program lasts 5 years > > > these days. That is how fast both technology and business processes > > > change. Yourself. Its well worth the effort. > > > > Any issues? minor -- > > > > * Documentation. Documentation is very complete but somewhat > > > dispersed. The Manual and the AlterEgo docs are both must reads. There > > > are also very good example techniques in the Rolling with Web2Py pdf. > > > Contributors are working on documenting internals that when complete > > > will answer a lot of questions. (At least for me.) > > > * Helper tools. Web2Py has tools they are just not as extensive as was > > > is available to Django, as yet. Django just started sooner. > > > > > thanks a lot to everyone, and my complments for this great work! > > > > giovanni > > > > Web2Py has been a good choice for me. I have completed 3 projects to > > > date and am on my 4th. It has not let me down. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "web2py Web Framework" group. 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