As far as I am concerned this is what I found interesting: 1) http://www.boduch.ca/2009/03/cherrypy-web-site-process-bus.html 2) http://www.rubyinside.com/nanite-self-assembling-cluster-of-ruby-daemons-1245.html 3) http://www.seaside.st/ (if only I could understand smalltalk)
I think 1) could be integrated in web2py by simply refactoring main in a more modular way 2) is interesting but I have not yet found a description of the protocol. This combined with a port scanner for auto discovery could provide a virus-like mechanism for deploying web2py. 3) has a great mechanism for components that can talk to each other client side. (putting everything together) A more general scheme would be a distributed software bus that can be used for synchronization, remote installation, caching, etc in a distributed environment. Massimo On May 13, 1:51 pm, Yarko Tymciurak <yark...@gmail.com> wrote: > :-) > > I tried Zope (actually Plone) in 2001; it was really interesting; > dotnetnuke 5 (?) years ago (that one is really interesting from several > standpoints); > I tried RoR 2 years ago; interesting, lots of setup, but Hobo project looked > promising... > > I too came (by accident) to web2py, and glad I did. > > Still, it's important to keep an eye on what others are doing, what we could > do better - continuous learning! FUN :-) > > On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 12:18 PM, Yannick <ytchatch...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Once you go Web2Py you never Look back :)... I'm coming from JAVA/ > > J2EE, I tried Zope found it too complex and then Django I was a little > > desperate, right at the time when i wanted to move back to JAVA I > > discovered Web2py this was a great turning point... So far so good and > > love the journey...Welcome aboard ! > > > Yannick P. > > > On May 13, 4:25 am, giohappy <gioha...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Thanks everyone for the answers. This is a proof of the web2py > > > community responsivity. > > > At least you have convinced me to try it, and I will employ it in my > > > present project (webgis field). So probably you'll see me very active > > > with questions! > > > Massimo: I know you're italian too, but I thought it's preferable to > > > write in english on this ml being an international one. If you don't > > > mind, I'll write in italian :) > > > > giovanni > > > > On 13 Mag, 07:17, mdipierro <mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu> wrote: > > > > > I agree. Consider this: practically every school/college/university in > > > > the country has switched to Python in their intro sequence programming > > > > courses within the last 3 years. These people are hitting the job > > > > market now. This means in the long term it should be easy for any > > > > company to find Python programmers. > > > > > It is also instructive to look at the popularity trends (google.com/ > > > > trends) of "ruby on rails", "php" and "turbogears". Unfortunatly > > > > trends does not work very well with web2py (because it is too recent) > > > > and Django (because of too many name conflicts). > > > > > Massimo > > > > > On May 12, 11:46 pm, JohnMc <maruadventu...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > I would offer one other suggestion. > > > > > > - If standards committee are part of any assessment process; consider > > > > > pitching Python as the language being used for the development. > > > > > > This would be especially true if Python is on the 'approved' stds > > list > > > > > in the company. > > > > > > JohnMc > > > > > > On May 12, 5:19 pm, mdipierro <mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu> wrote: > > > > > > > If you have made up your mind about using web2py and you have to go > > > > > > through committees to have it approved you should consider: > > > > > > > - print a copy ofhttp:// > > mdp.cti.depaul.edu/examples/static/web2py_vs_others.pdf > > > > > > (outdated but better than nothing) > > > > > > - make list of open issues and bug reports for web2py and competing > > > > > > frameworks > > > > > > - check responsiveness of mailing lists by asking > > web2py/dago/rails/ > > > > > > etc the same questions. > > > > > > - getting a quote for professional support time from one of the > > > > > > associated companies > > > > > > > Massimo > > > > > > > On May 12, 3:28 pm, JohnMc <maruadventu...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > I will give you a perspective from someone who comes from a > > web/php - > > > > > > > cakephp perspective -- > > > > > > > > On May 12, 4:30 am, giohappy <gioha...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear web2py group, > > > > > > > > I'm going to adobt a python web application framework for my > > next > > > > > > > > works, and until yesterday I was oriented to Django, as it > > seems to > > > > > > > > give me the best tradoff between simplicity, rapidity, power, > > etc > > > > > > > > I initially went the route, Django, as you were considering. I > > was > > > > > > > about 1/3rd the way though a small application before I noticed > > a > > > > > > > trend. In many cases to have the behaviors I wanted from Django I > > was > > > > > > > ripping out small code segments and replacing them with others. I > > have > > > > > > > generally never experienced that level of retrofit in a framework > > > > > > > before. > > > > > > > > So I dug a little deeper and website ever website I visited I saw > > this > > > > > > > trend. One went so far as to recommend pulling out the ORM and > > > > > > > replacing it with another! That in my mind leads to compatibility > > > > > > > issues, training concerns if its a large team effort, etc. At > > that > > > > > > > point I put the cursor down and looked elsewhere. > > > > > > > > > A friend of mine ha suggested me to have a look at web2py, and > > I admit > > > > > > > > I've been impressed by its features.... but as always, when one > > has to > > > > > > > > choose a technology on which to invest, the diffusion and the > > long- > > > > > > > > term support are other foundamental features to evaluate it. > > > > > > > > So my 1 billion $ question is: the web2py community seems to be > > > > > > > > growing, but it's two order of magnitude smaller the django's, > > and the > > > > > > > > google group activity is considered "low" respect to the "high" > > > > > > > > django's group. > > > > > > > > Django has had a headstart for one. But I would not configure > > > > > > > community size alone in your decision. The more important issue > > is -- > > > > > > > do you get answers? I have not been disappointed. Its developed > > into a > > > > > > > fair team of responders. > > > > > > > > What's you trend analysis? Would you suggest adopting > > > > > > > > > web2py for a long-term investment? I ask, possibily, for an > > "unbiased" > > > > > > > > answer, as I'm going to adopt it as a backend for a public > > > > > > > > infrastructure backend... don't put me in a bad situation! :) > > > > > > > > This is a two edged sword. > > > > > > > > A) If you have to go before a committee to get funding to do the > > > > > > > project Web2Py will be a harder sell than say pitching the > > project to > > > > > > > be done in Rails or TurboGears or Django. Its a mind perception > > > > > > > thing. > > > > > > > > B) When the project is done, you delivered under budget and weeks > > > > > > > ahead of time and the Director is pitching it in a slide deck at > > the > > > > > > > next quarterly meeting WHAT the project was done in will be the > > > > > > > furtherest thing from management's mind. > > > > > > > > The quandary is of course how do you overcome (A) to make (B) a > > > > > > > reality? Whenever I have faced (A) with management a prototype > > usually > > > > > > > sells it. There is one core problem that management wishes > > solved. > > > > > > > Write a Web2Py controller(s) for it, put a simple pretty face on > > it > > > > > > > and take that into the proposal meeting. The fact that they see > > the > > > > > > > problem almost resolved overcomes (A) and issues about what it > > was > > > > > > > written on is forgotten before the meeting is adjourned. (It also > > > > > > > eliminates your doubt it can be done, as you just did it.) > > > > > > > > Long term investment. Is that in reference to your time/career or > > the > > > > > > > projects? For a project, I am surprised if a program lasts 5 > > years > > > > > > > these days. That is how fast both technology and business > > processes > > > > > > > change. Yourself. Its well worth the effort. > > > > > > > > Any issues? minor -- > > > > > > > > * Documentation. Documentation is very complete but somewhat > > > > > > > dispersed. The Manual and the AlterEgo docs are both must reads. > > There > > > > > > > are also very good example techniques in the Rolling with Web2Py > > pdf. > > > > > > > Contributors are working on documenting internals that when > > complete > > > > > > > will answer a lot of questions. (At least for me.) > > > > > > > * Helper tools. Web2Py has tools they are just not as extensive > > as was > > > > > > > is available to Django, as yet. Django just started sooner. > > > > > > > > > thanks a lot to everyone, and my complments for this great > > work! > > > > > > > > giovanni > > > > > > > > Web2Py has been a good choice for me. I have completed 3 projects > > to > > > > > > > date and am on my 4th. It has not let me down. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "web2py Web Framework" group. To post to this group, send email to web2py@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to web2py+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/web2py?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
