Yeah, we need to re-use the existing editor. Patches would be great! On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 4:46 PM Pablo Ojanguren <pablo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi, > > I agree with the dependency hell issue and the suggestion for throwing > away the GWT client. This would require a new client-server API as > suggested, however I think a Rest API won't be enough, because real editing > needs websocket. > > I also agree with Michael, developing a new editor is a massive task, so > we should use an existing one and plug it in the new API. > > To write again the server in other language would be great, but I think it > requires a huge effort. > > I will be happy to help in decoupling the server-client, I can provide the > experience from my fork. And I plan to send some patches to Wave soon. > > > These are some slides about my fork (swellrt) it could give you some ideas: > > https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1WFDS_m7eyNjBjcdPs0zH496Y9bMSl0_JnSEYGjxNFn0/edit?usp=sharing > > https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/18hMYyECo5EmQsrAb8DT6SkO7LksWVJnhdZmqeCsar4c/edit?usp=sharing > > btw, I would like to start a business providing these SwellRT services. > > > > 2016-03-14 23:27 GMT+01:00 Joseph Gentle <m...@josephg.com>: > >> I've been playing with the idea of starting a company around a rewrite of >> wave for years. >> >> -J >> >> On Tuesday, 15 March 2016, Adam Bielski <a_biel...@ymail.com.invalid> >> wrote: >> >> > Hiya all!I wish I could find out who is potentially interested in >> creating >> > the WAVE for a commercial service/productwith my seed startup!Cheers! >> > Adam >> > >> > 20:23 poniedziałek, 2016-3-14, Zachary Yaro <zmy...@gmail.com >> > <javascript:;>> napisał(a): >> > >> > >> > I am inclined to agree with Yuri—if the alternative implementation can >> be >> > developed in parallel around the same protocol, that would seem to be >> the >> > best scenario, but the existing codebase should be kept because it is >> > (AFAIK) the most functional implementation of the protocol. >> > >> > Zachary Yaro >> > On Mar 14, 2016 15:05, "Yuri Z" <vega...@gmail.com <javascript:;>> >> wrote: >> > >> > > I think that more "wavy" projects are nice, but IMO it doesn't mean we >> > > should abandon Apache Wave as it is now. I agree there are a lot of >> > issues >> > > with current code, but I think there's still value as people can see >> what >> > > Wave can potentially be. >> > > >> > > On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at 8:46 AM Evan Hughes <wisebald...@apache.org >> > <javascript:;>> >> > > wrote: >> > > >> > > > The link for those who wish to join, Ill also add this link onto the >> > new >> > > > website. >> > > > >> > > > https://www.hipchat.com/gsModF8CY >> > > > >> > > > On Sun, 13 Mar 2016 at 12:12 Michael MacFadden < >> > > > michael.macfad...@gmail.com <javascript:;>> >> > > > wrote: >> > > > >> > > > > Yeah. Chatting is fine and beneficial. We just need to make sure >> we >> > > > > capture key decisions and rationale back in the list for all to >> see. >> > > > > >> > > > > ~Michael >> > > > > >> > > > > > On Mar 12, 2016, at 6:07 PM, Evan Hughes < >> wisebald...@apache.org >> > <javascript:;>> >> > > > wrote: >> > > > > > >> > > > > > It does not so as Ive seen other projects state this motto "If >> its >> > > not >> > > > on >> > > > > > the mailing list it didnt happen at all", but allows for non >> formal >> > > > talk >> > > > > > and back and forth discussion realtime. The Monthly reports >> that we >> > > > > talked >> > > > > > about back when we did the hangout session should probably be >> > picked >> > > up >> > > > > > again, ill add it to the monthly todo's. >> > > > > > >> > > > > > On Sun, 13 Mar 2016 at 11:58 Michael MacFadden < >> > > > > michael.macfad...@gmail.com <javascript:;>> >> > > > > > wrote: >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> One follow up question though. Does hip hat store conversations >> > in a >> > > > > >> publicly accessible manner? If not, we need to make sure key >> > > > decisions >> > > > > >> that come out of chats are captured and discussed on the >> mailing >> > > list >> > > > > for >> > > > > >> all to see. >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> ~Michael >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >>> On Mar 12, 2016, at 7:15 AM, Evan Hughes < >> wisebald...@apache.org >> > <javascript:;>> >> > > > > wrote: >> > > > > >>> >> > > > > >>> I would get infra to make us a hipchat channel so we have some >> > > place >> > > > to >> > > > > >>> talk casually web interface / irc, but seesm the jira's down. >> > > Looking >> > > > > to >> > > > > >>> getting this rolling in some way or another by mid week. >> > > > > >>> >> > > > > >>> ~ Evan >> > > > > >>> >> > > > > >>>> On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 at 19:48 Evan Hughes < >> > wisebald...@apache.org <javascript:;>> >> > > > > >> wrote: >> > > > > >>>> >> > > > > >>>> The client-server protocol would define a protobuf and json >> rest >> > > > > >> services >> > > > > >>>> so any language that support protocol buffers would be able >> to >> > > make >> > > > a >> > > > > >>>> client or fallback to the json rest. >> > > > > >>>> >> > > > > >>>> >> > > > > >>>> On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 at 19:24 Andreas Kotes < >> > > > > >> count-apache....@flatline.de <javascript:;>> >> > > > > >>>> wrote: >> > > > > >>>> >> > > > > >>>>> FWIW, >> > > > > >>>>> >> > > > > >>>>> I also consider the idea pretty good and would want stronger >> > > > > decoupling >> > > > > >>>>> of server/client. I'd be interested in a python client >> > > > > implementation, >> > > > > >>>>> mostly for CLI and bot integration. >> > > > > >>>>> >> > > > > >>>>> Not sure whether doing a client-side C implementation of the >> > > > > >>>>> communication protocol would be best here (so wrapper for >> more >> > > > > >> languages >> > > > > >>>>> can follow), or whether native Python would be better. We >> need >> > > > > >> something >> > > > > >>>>> for non-Java folks in any case, I think. >> > > > > >>>>> >> > > > > >>>>> Cheers, >> > > > > >>>>> >> > > > > >>>>> count >> > > > > >>>>> >> > > > > >>>>>> On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 10:52:34AM +1000, Evan Hughes >> wrote: >> > > > > >>>>>> Thankyou all for your feedback and expressions of >> interests, >> > > seems >> > > > > >> like >> > > > > >>>>> we >> > > > > >>>>>> may be able to develop some teams together to make this a >> > faster >> > > > > >> reality >> > > > > >>>>>> than just I. Hopefully we can get some more people to >> express >> > > > > >> interests >> > > > > >>>>> in >> > > > > >>>>>> this way forward. >> > > > > >>>>> >> > > > > >>>>> -- >> > > > > >>>>> Andreas 'count' Kotes >> > > > > >>>>> Taming computers for humans since 1990. >> > > > > >>>>> "Don't ask what the world needs. Ask what makes you come >> alive, >> > > and >> > > > > go >> > > > > >> do >> > > > > >>>>> it. >> > > > > >>>>> Because what the world needs is people who have come >> alive." -- >> > > > > Howard >> > > > > >>>>> Thurman >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >
