Axil,

NAE "traps" seem to exist in many forms. DGT seems to have fabricated
"magnetic" traps facilitated by Nano-antennae, which is what you are
referencing. Meulenberg-Sinha in their Extended Lochon elaborate on
electrostatic traps initiated by phonons emanating from linear defects (or
"Nano-cracks"). Even in Ed's theory there is a variety of "trap", wherein
the walls of the NAE become sufficiently loaded with charge so to
facilitate the formation and "trapping" of Hydroton chains. There is no
monopoly on "trap" methodology it would appear.

As far as Shoulders goes, again, the EVO does not explain He4 or tritium. I
think it may contribute to the overall reaction output as a secondary or
tertiary reaction, and may in fact be the reason we see transmutations with
no radioactive products. But we have to figure out whether deuterium or
tritium is produced in NiH before we jump to any real conclusions.

As far as Ed's objection that the EVO is only created in spark discharge
plasma, Shoulders also speculates EVO in wet-systems is formed through
sono-luminescent bubble ejections striking the cathode. So I'm not sure
that objection is all that valid, because theoretically EVO could form in
standard electrolysis PdD. But again it in no way accounts for He4 or
tritium in these systems (and neither does hot fracto-fusion account for
these ash either).

Regards,
John


On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 7:21 PM, Axil Axil <[email protected]> wrote:

> Ken Shoulders has captured the fundament LENR reaction in a experimental
> picture he took.
>
> In more detail, a picture of the dark mode localized magnetic traps (LMT)
> can be found in the Ken Shoulders paper on Figure 5 and 6 on page 4 sited
> in this vortex post  as follows:
>
> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg80263.html
>
> Let us discuss this
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 7:04 PM, Foks0904 . <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> *I also wonder if you will cover Ken Shoulders discovery of transmutation
>> in spark production*
>>
>> I continue to wonder how EVO factors into LENR, if at all. Shoulders has
>> observed that for whatever reason his experiments do not produce
>> radioactive elements, similar to LENR transmutation results. Now
>> unfortunately, like all vacuum energy hypotheses, EVO does not explain the
>> Heat/Helium correlation nor tritium production in PdD. Once we know whether
>> deuterium and tritium are being produced in NiH, we'll be better able to
>> predict the relevance of EVO in that system.
>>
>> I suspect that there are about 3-4 different types of reactions
>> intermingling in all systems. The main reaction is some kind of cluster
>> fusion phenomenon that produces the nuclear level excess heat and
>> dissipates nuclear products slowly through photons and phonons. The
>> secondary and tertiary phenomenon may include Cavitation, Casmir Forces,
>> EVO, and/or Fracto-Fusion. All speculation of course.
>>
>> Regards,
>> John
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 6:49 PM, Axil Axil <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> One manifestation of the LENR reaction that your theoretical thinking
>>> has been very weak on is the explanation of the Rossi reactor meltdown when
>>> high temperature material can melt at temperatures in excess of 2000C.
>>>
>>> Will you now attempt to explain how this high heat event can occur,
>>> and explain the details of how this particular reaction can happen?
>>>
>>> I believe that the extremes of a reaction can reveal the detailed
>>> essence of the reaction.
>>>
>>> I also wonder if you will cover Ken Shoulders discovery of transmutation
>>> in spark production as well as transmutation produced in the proton 21
>>> experiment?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 5:31 PM, Edmund Storms <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Axil, this insight will be provided in a book that will take my first
>>>> book, written in 2007, to the present and show how the observations have
>>>> been explained and how they can be better explained without conflict with
>>>> what is known. Unfortunately, so many different opinions exists in the
>>>> field, no one would believe what I propose without the complete evidence
>>>> only a book can provide.
>>>>
>>>> Too many attempts at creating a theory are based on pure imagination
>>>> without any relationship to reality or to what is actually observed. People
>>>> simply do not read the literature. This is understandable because about
>>>> 2000 papers must be found and read, which is a full time job.  Enough
>>>> information is now available to make rejection of most theories possible
>>>> and to identify where the unique mechanism functions in the process.
>>>> Nothing about the process conflicts with what is known. The unique
>>>> mechanism is new and I predict the full understanding will warrant a Nobel
>>>> prize by someone in the distant future.  The best analogy to past
>>>> discoveries would be the realization by Pauli that a neutrino-like particle
>>>> existed based on how the energy of beta decay was found to be less than the
>>>> required mass-energy change. Until then, people had no clue such a particle
>>>> was possible.  In the case of LENR, a new force is revealed that is hidden
>>>> in plain sight in exactly the same way.  A person only needs to know where
>>>> to look.
>>>>
>>>> My book will describe my path to a solution. Of course, this will open
>>>> the door to another rejection event by all the theoreticians and everyone
>>>> who thinks they know how the effect works. But, then the book will speak
>>>> for itself without my having to waste time in endless debate.
>>>>
>>>> Ed Storms
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 12, 2014, at 2:58 PM, Axil Axil wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm in the process of studying all the explanations and comparing them
>>>>> to what is known in LENR and in general science. The failure to make
>>>>> progress in explaining LENR is easy to see and a clear path to the correct
>>>>> explanation is becoming obvious, at least to me.  The problem has a
>>>>> solution if you know where to look.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I am sure that all here want to get a preview of this emerging
>>>>> solution. Is it possible to reveal to us a preview?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>

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