Mark Gibbs writes:
"You completely miss my point ... Ruby's argument dimisses Ethan's argument by simply saying "you're wrong" and citing experimental evidence that isn't accepted outside of the LENR community. You're right, experiment trumps theory but only when you have an experiment that can be replicated and has unarguable results. Unless I misunderstand, the catalog of successful LENR experiments doesn't include one that you could hand to Ethan and say "here you go, try it, it works."


No, Mark, I am not saying simply "you're wrong" to Siegel.

We have experimental results that do not fit the Standard Model of conventional nuclear theory first formulated a century ago.

Siegel is saying that this Standard Model rules today. It doesn't, and the experimental evidence proves it.





On 5/30/13 10:33 AM, Ruby wrote:

Yes, thank you Mark.  I agree with Jed.

Mark Gibbs is wrong in his reasoning

It should be clear that there are experimental results that have no confirmed model to explain them.

This is the history of revolutionary science, which Gibbs should be aware of.





On 5/30/13 8:27 AM, MarkI-ZeroPoint wrote:

Ruby:

I don't think Jed was criticizing your statement,

"Cold fusion has no definitive theory -- as yet, but the experimental evidence is overwhelming: anomalous heat and transmutations can occur within metallic-hydrides systems contained in small cells that sit on a table-top"

it was Gibbs' statement after it which was:

"Unfortunately that's not a sound argument..."

Jed rightfully criticizes Gibbs' statement because it implies that without a definitive theory, experimental evidence has little weight.

It is a sore point with all LENR followers because it is the opposite of what science is all about; if repeatable experimental evidence contradicts theory, then theory may need to be revised/replaced.

Keep up the fight!

-Mark Iverson

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I wrote that quote...

"Cold fusion has no definitive theory -- as yet, but the experimental evidence is overwhelming: anomalous heat and transmutations can occur within metallic-hydrides systems contained in small cells that sit on a table-top"
http://coldfusionnow.org/discovery-news-misinforms-on-cold-fusion-again/

.. and stand by it.--

Ruby Carat
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