1. Steven N. Karels
   July 2, 2019 at 4:31 AM
   <http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=892&cpage=434#comment-1375785>

   Dear Andrea,

   I have difficulty with your limited answer and I suspect others might
   also have questions and/or are experiencing confusion.

   I understand there are two primary ways of deriving energy from the
   nucleus – fission and fusion. I suspect you are concerned with protecting
   your confidential business secrets and that is fine and understandable.

   But the implication that I would draw from your comment is that the
   reaction is fission which cannot be the correct answer because of the low
   atomic number of the ingredients.

   Confused,

   Steve
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   Andrea Rossi
   July 2, 2019 at 8:21 AM
   <http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=892&cpage=434#comment-1375841>

   Steven N. Karels:
   There are other nuclear interactions, besides fusion and fission.
   See also

   
http://www.researchgate.net/publication/330601653_E-Cat_SK_and_long_range_particle_interactions
   Warm Regards,
   A.R.


On Tue, Jul 2, 2019 at 1:43 PM Jürg Wyttenbach <[email protected]> wrote:

> The connection missing since decades was the fact that super-conduction is
> spin-current and not electron flux and not copper pair flux.
> Hirsch first found the connection between spin current and SC when he
> could improve the description of the Meissner effect. After the latest
> experiments by Holmlid and the work of H. Esat Kondakci 1,2 & Ayman F.
> Abouraddy1
> about group velocity >  60c it is clear that the orbit of light inside
> matter is a spin orbit.
> From my work it is clear that the metric of SO(4) allows to explain the
> acceleration of the group velocity. The 3D/4D flux, that couples with
> matter, makes 8 rotations before getting back to origin this allows for an
> about 27 times shorter path (radius = 1/2!) for light = its mass (use
> mass orbit relation)  moving along an SO(4) orbit.
> The connections people did talk about seems to be the true orbit of
> photons inside matter, that can be modeled by 3 rotations.
>
> BEC is key for the formation of larger coupled spin orbits. The classic
> electron of Hydrogen/Deuterium mostly runs in one plane equivalent orbit.
> The electron pair of  4-He runs on a SO(4) orbit. This first condensation
> step of an electron allows to get rid of about 10.8 eV, what leads to a
> reduction of the orbit radius. This amount of energy 10.8 eV is also the
> "optical energy" such a bond can temporary store in the energy-hole left
> behind.
>
> If larger orbits form out the number of possible pairs does increase and
> also the total sum of energy increases. The critical energy to trigger a
> "proton magnetic moment relaxation" is 1001eV. If this counter mass rotates
> along a proton spin orbit the proton can get rid of 2002eV what leads to
> 2.15pm radius state Holmlid reports. In this process two condensed
> (paired)  deuterium nuclei release the so called dark matter signal energy
> of around 3.5keV.
> The 1001eV resonance energy of the proton has been found in three
> different experiments.
>
> BEC at room temperature and up to several hundred degrees is allowed by
> classic theory already if you lower the pressure (as Holmlid does) and use
> a cavity = hole in surface, that reduces the degrees of freedom for moving
> mass from 3 to 1 then 3/2kt becomes 0.5kt.
>
> For me the LENR picture is almost complete. One thing I would like to add.
> According to my calculations
> the 61-Ni magnetic state that couples in the Mizuno reaction, induces a
> magnetic energy equivalent of the H/D orbit magnetic energy what tells us
> that the final LENR energy release process is thermalizing using the base
> electron orbit of hydrogen/deuterium.
>
> Jürg Wyttenbach
>
> Am 02.07.19 um 16:03 schrieb JonesBeene:
>
>
>
> Is there a strong connection between computer design and LENR? The
> connection may be non-obvious for now, but in a few months it may be state
> of the art, right Axil?
>
>
>
> Here is a News story from yesterday which may explain Axil’s recent
> observation of a novel QM connection between the Mizuno setup to the
> emerging architecture of the  quantum computer.
>
>
>
> At least the research  is  novel to me, and since is on a different end
> use with different parameters, the connection may end up being “ by
> analogy” or not. I seem to have lost the original  message but the Wang
> research on supercurrents  is here
>
>
>
>
> https://phys.org/news/2019-07-physicists-supercurrents-enable-ultrafast-quantum.html
>
>
> https://phys.org/news/2018-06-physicists-terahertz-uncover-state-hidden.html
>
> Wang et al from Iowa State University claim “light-induced
> superconductivity without energy gap.” That seems to be right on target for
> a Mizuno explanation too especially if the supercurrent is related to a
> palladium nanoparticle only and NOT the bulk structure.
>
> IOW we have “local superconductivity” of palladium hydride at 400° F with
> extreme and self-contained supercurrents within in the nanoparticle. Wang
> mentions terahertz oscillation and symmetry breaking – which is another
> clue about the nature of gain.
>
> Photons are the only elementary particles which routinely form into
> condensates (BEC) at high temperature, setting the stage for a “proximity”
> effect as in the Mizuno reactor.
>
> https://physicstoday.scitation.org/do/10.1063/PT.4.0888/full/
>
> Since  Palladium hydride is itself a superconductor at low temperature it
> may function to retain that state  at much higher temperature when in close
> proximity to another superconductor (the photon BEC). Perhaps the
> combination of the two results in superconductivity at elevated temperature
> within the dimensions of a nanoparticle via the known proximity effect but
> limited to the nanoparticle (or Qubit/exciton structure)
>
> In the Weitz study cited above the photon wavelength is not the same as
> the palladium optical anomaly but it is close enough to considered an
> identical situation. He does not limit the effect to a single wavelength.
>
> This all fits together rather elegantly. That does not make it correct,
> but it makes infinitely more sense than actual nuclear fusion to explain
> anomalous heat.
>
>
>
> ----------------------------------
>
>
>
> Moving forward – this month of July could be unusually hot, to speak…
> Energy Independence Day could be upon us.
>
>
>
> Several top researchers are now committed to a Mizuno replication and
> underway already. Even more are thinking seriously about parts of it -  and
> there are literally dozens of crafty amateurs who want to make a big
> splash. Who knows what will happen by Fall? The only thing missing, sadly,
> is participation from DOE and the big labs (with the possible exception of
> Lawrence Berkeley.)
>
>
>
> Few of the researchers want to be identified at this time by name - but
> the explosion of interest in this experiment is like nothing we have seen
> in the field since the early days of the Rossi debacle. If this turns out
> to be another false alarm – LENR may never recover.
>
>
>
> Most of the pundits on this forum are willing to give benefit of the doubt
> to Mizuno, and take a wait-and-see attitude, despite similar claims from
> him in the past which did not pan out. Some of that tolerance is because of
> a realizable hope for an increase in the basic understanding of LENR even
> if the effect is not as robust as claimed. In contrast, Rossi disappeared
> from relevance with negative, decreased understanding.
>
>
>
> To that end, the one old lesson which is standing-out comes from a
> reanalysis of the original Widom Larsen work of 14 years ago. Admittedly,
> the big thing they got wrong was the ultra low momentum neutron but not the
> rest of it. That species now seems both imaginary and useless, but the two
> valuable insights which they got right are the surface plasmon interaction
> with protons and the need for framing a multi-step reaction to take the
> place of deuterium fusion. It is clear from Mizuno that his technique works
> with both protium and deuterium with no neutron activation, even after long
> runs at high power. Nuclear fusion is most unlikely, but not another kind
> of nuclear reaction.
>
>
>
> IMHO, the main thing which W&L overlooked is the “cluster” of many atoms
> as being the key to the multi-step process  – and not some mysterious cold
> neutron. The cluster of many atoms bound together with borrowed electron
> energy can resonate with surface plasmons whereas the atoms themselves are
> much too small to couple. The energy which is released in a subsequent
> “Coulomb explosion” is then a type of nuclear binding energy modeled on QCD
> and the strong force.
>
>
>
> But at least nailing the surface plasmon step by W&L was a major advance…
> which was never capitalized on, and which Mizuno seems to have stumbled on
> in his experiment serendipitously.
>
>
>
> As they say in Sapporo (or was that Paris) “chance favors the prepared
> mind.”
>
>
>
> If this pre-analysis is even half-way on target, Mizuno switched from glow
> discharge to incandescent photon input power pretty much by trial and
> error, or even by  accident or desperation; and he may not have realized at
> the time the importance of the palladium absorption anomaly in the red
> spectrum.
>
>
>
> I’m anticipating a red hot July …
>
>
>
>
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