That's the kicker about SSH. I've not seen much about it anywhere, and it
proves cumbersome to set up.  My first experience was an attempt to set up CVS
access for a project I was working on at SourceForge and I never did get that
one working right.  That particular issue was due to the fact that  I had
little familiarity with either CVS or SSH at the time.

I think that's one reason Michael has identified SSh pretty well as a useful,
easily doable (hah!) how-to document topic.


For starting out, here's a suggestion that may be useful for you.  First, try
to get access to a server that is already using SSH (or at least allows it)
for telnet access.  Then pick one of the SSH-compatible telnet programs out
there and use it to hook up.

This is handy for two reasons.  The first is that if someone else has it set
up as a server already, you're only trying to solve 1 connection problem
instead of 2.  The second is that a good 99.8% of the connection problems are
client side - and you will be apporaching dealing with SSH as an end user
would, with minimal knowledge of SSH (as opposed to what happens if you get a
server running successfully first).

Putty is probably the easiest client to find coming from the Windows side.
Another one which has an SSH plugin is TeraTermPro.  Both are freely
available.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff Baldwin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday/2002 February 05 18:04
Subject: Re: Secure Windows Connection


: Alex --
:
: Thanks you for the great response.  I guess my next question is, are
: there any pre-existing docs out there to help me get started on
: implemening VNC over SSH?  I have seen many 'proof of concept' docs, but
: nothing close to resembling a 'howto'.  As I mentioned before, I would
: love to document this process, but I, as many others before me, have not
: much of a clue as to where to begin on this journey.
:
: Thanks
:
: Jeff
:
: Alex Angelopoulos wrote:
:
: > I think SSH is the best route to go in general, for a few reasons.
: >
: > (1) If you set up application A to run over SSH, when people start
worrying
: > about B through Z it's simple to plug in.
: >
: > (2) From what I understand, you make almost anything run over SSH. (Take
that
: > with a chunk of salt, though - I've only done it with about 3 things in
the
: > past).
: >
: > (3) As opposed to many other secure connections, it apparently tends to do
a
: > good job of compressing data.  This is based on the ORL/AT&T comments
about
: > SSH, not broad personal experience.  I can tell you that I found several
: > console sessions I have runs using SSH to remote systems to be extremely
: > peppy.
: >
: > (4) Usage out there is wide, even though not common.  It works for both
Unices
: > and Windows, of course.
: >
: > Note that the issue of browser interface is not excluded by using SSH
either.
: > You can tunnel that through the SSH connection if someone wants to use a
: > browser on their end; whatever they use, the packets then get passed out
in
: > the SSH tunnel.
: >
: > ----- Original Message -----
: > From: "Jeff Baldwin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
: > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
: > Sent: Tuesday/2002 February 05 17:08
: > Subject: Secure Windows Connection
: >
: >
: > : Ok.. I have seen this topic aeveral times on this list, and each time
it
: > : seems it has come to a somewhat unclear conclusion (at least in my
: > : mind).  Finally, I have run into the same road block as many others, I
: > : have numerous VNC Servers on 'our' network and the idea of insecure
: > : communications across the network is really starting to 'irk' me.
: > :
: > : With the information I gain/apply here, I will write up a complete
howto
: > : for securing VNC connections.  Ok.. w/ that said, I now have to ask
some
: > : questions..
: > :
: > : What is the 'best' most secure way to communicate w/ VNC Server on a
: > : network?
: > :
: > : Most of my clients are Windows users, however I use ONLY Linux and have
: > : many spare Linux boxen that I could use as 'middle men' if neccesary to
: > : port forward the SSH connection.
: > :
: > : So, basically all I'm looking to do here is find out how to secure a
VNC
: > : connection, should I use the browser interface, ssh, etc..??
: > :
: > : Thanks
: > :
: > : Jeff
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