If you have implemented VNC then you know how it functions. It has a very
simple function and needs no discussion.

If the argument then falls on why, and if, the implementer should be looking
to this list for moral grounds on ways around the intended result of
implementation, then they should be looking instead for a psychologists'
opinion rather than ours.

I applaud the VNC developers for their efforts and ethics in developing this
FREE product that we all take for granted. If you want to cheat, then the
option is there... the answer is simple... recode and recompile. It's
obvious after reading the FAQ and the posts to this list that that was not
the original implementation.


-----Original Message-----
From: Joshua Buker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2000 3:04 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: "ethical" postings to list [was Re: how to hide the VNC
logo ?]


Here here....  this is a mail list about VNC functionality, and user
requests about the functionality seem apropriate.



----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Mcleod" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2000 10:06 PM
Subject: "ethical" postings to list [was Re: how to hide the VNC logo ?]


> <gripe>
> The way I see it, this list is for anything concerning VNC, whether it be
> the ethical considerations faced by installing a program that lets you
> remotely access a computer, or the technical functionality of VNC.  It is
> all to do with VNC and so to me seems perfectly relevant to this list.
>
> I don't know where you get off thinking you can tell people what to post
to
> the list, I don't see anything saying "list admin" in your name, or "VNC
> technical supervisor".  I haven't seen a single complaint from anybody of
> "authority" (by authority I mean a list admin or moderator) compalining
> about "These *ethical* and *hypothetical* posts" that you only seem to
think
> have no place on this list.
> </gripe>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michael Mullen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, December 29, 2000 5:55 PM
> Subject: RE: how to hide the VNC logo ?
>
>
> > These *ethical* and *hypothetical* posts have no place on this
technically
> > oriented list. If your question/post has nothing to do with the CURRENT
> > FUNCTIONALITY of VNC, please refrain from posting.
> >
> > Thank You.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: David W. Chapman Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2000 11:47 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: how to hide the VNC logo ?
> >
> >
> > Then do you feel that system administrators are not allowed to check
users
> > email at the request of management?  I would not like being spied on,
but
> > what you do at work is the property of the business and as you said if
you
> > don't like their policy just quit.  Just having that policy alone
usually
> > keeps people on task knowing that someone could be watching what they
are
> > doing.
> >
> > > I would not work for a company that deemed that sort of thing
> > > acceptable,
> > > and I would quit if I found my work was being surreptitiously spied
> > > upon.
> > > I suspect most people feel the same (though some might not have the
> > > luxury of being able to quit in protest). I can certainly see why the
> > > AT&T
> > > developers would not want to be seen as supporting this kind of
> > > activity.
> > >
> >
> > It is political, but it shouldn't be.  This isn't something that someone
> in
> > the IS department should have to decide over, but management.
> >
> > > (Hmm, it seems software -is- political. Damn.)
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