I don't understand James' reasoning. The whole reason I have a smart phone and all of the apps on it is to make my life easier. Sure more coding is involved and sure this may introduce some bugs, but hopefully those will get ironed out and we'll end up with a greater number of features and an easier to use phone. Laziness has nothing to do with it.
On 24/02/13 21:07, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: > Hello James, > > The 3-finger double tap works fine as far as it goes. If I remember > correctly you live in the south somewhere and probably don't deal with cold > temperatures which require you to wear a heavy coat for 5 months out of the > year along with gloves. If you did and had to start digging for your phone > every time you were out and about with your phone tugged away and then take > off a glove to use the touch screen you might agree with me and support the > fact that this most likely could be addressed. David from New Zealand > mentioned that he likes his notifications spoken so I think Apple should at > least look at the possibility to offer this as an option in Voiceover and I > am going to send them feedback to that extend. > As I said, it is my understanding that not everybody is dealing with this > and if you are not then I am happy for you, but it's also not very > insightful to recommend a work-around to an annoying problem as that does > not do anything to improve the situation. That is no different than to > suggest that maybe I should let voice mail take the call and then to call > back from a landline or when I am inside and have normal access to my phone. > This would also solve the problem, but it's not a reasonable solution. We > all have to keep in mind that there are people from all over the world on > this list and people from all sorts of backgrounds and what maybe completely > fine for you may not be for somebody else. > > > Regards, > Sieghard > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf > Of James Mannion > Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 5:58 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Device specific bugs regarding focus and phone calls, was: vo > focus... > > Well ya know, a simple 3 finger double tap once in a call will have > voiceover "shut up" as long as you want. Or of course one could be too lazy > to do that and push for more complicated coding that increases the > possibility of resulting bugs. It takes more time to complain about > voiceover reading when you don't want it to than it would to just not be too > lazy to use your available commands to make it not do so. > > On 2/24/13, Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected]> wrote: >> Hi Peter, >> >> I just opened an email and double tapped on "Reply" and Voiceover put >> focus on "Reply" which is the first item in the list. It seems that >> this is an issue which happens in some cases and maybe on some devices. >> I have a similar problem with Voiceover volume during a call if I am >> not using a headset. Ever since iOS 6 I am not able to turn Voiceover >> volume up independently from the call volume, at least I am not able >> to balance Voiceover volume and call volume where I can comfortably >> have the phone on speakerphone and dial numbers or hear voice prompts. >> Apparently not everybody has this problem and my 4S also keeps on >> reading out call duration every 20 seconds while on a call no matter >> what I do. If I flick focus away from the call duration, the screen >> locks after a while and within about 30 seconds Voiceover resumes >> announcing the call duration. For me I would consider those 2 items >> the most inconvenient bugs in addition to the fact that Voiceover >> reads incoming push notification, messages etc. when on a call, Apple >> should really fix it so that Voiceover shuts up completely with >> respect to automatic announcements when a phone call is in progress. >> >> >> Regards, >> Sieghard >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >> Behalf Of Peter Durieux >> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 8:41 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: vo focus of last entry in menu's instead of first with ios >> 6.1.2ee >> >> hi folks, >> does someone else experience this same issue? >> for example, when tapping the reply button in mail, vo will focus the >> cancel buttton instead of the first choice answer. >> the same behaviour are in different apps, so it seems an vo issue in >> ios >> 6.1.2 ... >> >> >> With kind regards, >> >> -Peter Durieux >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" >> Google >> Group. >> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >> an email to [email protected]. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" >> Google Group. >> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >> an email to [email protected]. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google > Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- Christopher (CJ) chaltain at Gmail -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. 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