Yes, it has those things, but some other robots have the ability to detect shoes, pet waste, that kind of thing.
> On Jul 17, 2022, at 12:46 PM, Kay Malmquist <[email protected]> wrote: > > What obstacle avoidance features is it missing out of curiosity? I'd hope > it has cliff detection or stair avoidance. > > Kay Malmquist > [email protected] > > Worrying does not empty tomorrow of its troubles, it empties today of its > strength. > Corrie Ten Boom - 1892-1983 - Watchmaker > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike Arrigo" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2022 12:21 PM > Subject: Re: Roomba > > > The S7 is a good bot, it doesn't have all of the obstacle avoidance features > but if you don't need that it will work fine and should clean really well. > >> On Jul 17, 2022, at 10:54 AM, Christopher Chaltain <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> Thanks! We did see that the S7 MaxV won best robot vacuum cleaner in >> multiple reviews, but I didn't want to spend that much money on a vacuum >> cleaner, and I didn't think we needed all of those features! The S7 seemed >> to be exactly what we were looking for. >> >> -- >> Christopher (AKA CJ) >> Chaltain at Outlook >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of >> Mike Arrigo >> Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2022 10:04 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: Roomba >> >> The S7 is a great Bot, I don't have that one but it's in their top of the >> line series, I think you will be very happy with it, for the best cleaning >> I would suggest always running it on the max setting, it should still be >> able to clean the house on one charge, Roborock includes a large battery >> in their bots. >> >>> On Jul 17, 2022, at 9:01 AM, Christopher Chaltain <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> We got the S7. We wanted the LIDAR feature and my wife wanted the mop >>> option. >>> >>> -- >>> Christopher (AKA CJ) >>> Chaltain at Outlook >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of >>> Mike Arrigo >>> Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2022 6:05 AM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: Roomba >>> >>> I'm curious, which Roborock model did you get? They are great, far better >>> than any Roomba. >>> >>>> On Jul 16, 2022, at 9:58 PM, Christopher Chaltain <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> We bought it from Amazon as part of Amazon Prime Days. >>>> >>>> I'd say Mike's review was spot on. My sighted wife and I set it up >>>> together, but based on what I could see, I could have done the setup >>>> completely by myself, except for maybe finding the wi-fi button on the >>>> Roborock. Except for identifying the rooms on the map, the app seems >>>> completely accessible. Looks like once we identify the rooms, I'll be >>>> able to send it to a specific room to clean with the app or a voice >>>> command. I set up the Siri shortcuts, so just with voice commands I can >>>> start it cleaning, pause it, send it back to it's docking station and >>>> change the strength of the suction. >>>> >>>> We've only run it through the house once, but it sucked up quite a bit >>>> of dog and cat hair. It was pretty cool to see it navigate each room. >>>> Now that it's been through the house once, I wonder if it'll be quicker >>>> the next time, although except for the dining room with all of it's >>>> chairs, it seemed to be pretty quick and smart. I'm looking forward to >>>> having it stay on top of the pet hair throughout the week, especially >>>> under the bed. I'm also hoping it'll help my wife with her allergies. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Christopher (AKA CJ) >>>> Chaltain at Outlook >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf >>>> Of Kay Malmquist >>>> Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2022 7:23 PM >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Subject: Re: Roomba >>>> >>>> I will be interested in what you think. I also saw Mike's review and >>>> thought seriously about buying the Roborock. Do you have any >>>> recommendations as to the best place to buy one? Years ago, I had two >>>> Roomba's, one for downstairs and one for up. I liked them and miss them >>>> for the in-between vacuum jobs they did. >>>> >>>> Kay Malmquist >>>> [email protected] >>>> >>>> Worrying does not empty tomorrow of its troubles, it empties today of >>>> its strength. >>>> Corrie Ten Boom - 1892-1983 - Watchmaker >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Christopher Chaltain" <[email protected]> >>>> To: <[email protected]> >>>> Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2022 5:35 PM >>>> Subject: RE: Roomba >>>> >>>> >>>> A few weeks ago Mike Arrigo <[email protected]> posted the following >>>> review of several robot vacuum cleaners. I used this myself, and just >>>> a few minutes ago, we let our Roborock start it's maiden voyage around >>>> our house. >>>> >>>> I remember a while back there was some discussion about the >>>> accessibility of apps that are used to control robot vacuums. I now >>>> have a small robot vacuum collection and have tried each brand's app >>>> so I have an idea about which apps work the best with Voiceover. Some >>>> are definitely better than others. >>>> I'm going to group these in to three categories, accessible or mostly >>>> accessible, that is, everything is well labeled or at least easy to >>>> use with Voiceover's recognition abilities, useable but not the most >>>> accessible, meaning you can use the app but some of the controls are >>>> not labeled and you will have to memorize the order of where they are >>>> on the screen, and mostly unuseable, that is, you will need sighted >>>> help to do at least some things in the app since they are impossible >>>> to do using voiceover. One other thing to note, many robots will map >>>> your house and let you define rooms or no go zones by drawing on the >>>> map. Unfortunately there is no way to do that using Voiceover with >>>> any of these apps and I'm not even sure how that could be made >>>> accessible since it involves drawing, so your choices are to get >>>> sighted help if you want to use those features or just let the robot >>>> clean the entire place each time which is what I do. >>>> Ok, let's start with the most accessible category, these are in no >>>> particular order. >>>> The Irobot home app is used for the Roomba robots and works very well >>>> with Voiceover. For the most part, everything is well labeled, there >>>> are a few places where voiceover has to guess at what a control is >>>> but it does describe those controls well. I had no problems setting >>>> up my Roomba J7 Plus totally without sighted help. This app is very >>>> interactive which I like, at times it will display tips and tricks or >>>> ask you how the robot did on its last run and this is all completely >>>> accessible. If you decide you want to get a Roomba you will have no >>>> trouble at all using the app. >>>> Next up is the Roborock app. As a side note, I think Roborock is one >>>> of the best, if not the best brand of robot vacuums available, their >>>> cleaning and navigation is excellent. I discovered something with >>>> this app, I actually have two different Roborock models and the >>>> controls read slightly differently depending on which robot you >>>> choose to control from the home screen. This makes me wonder if the >>>> app is actually downloading this content from the robot itself. >>>> Either way, the app is very easy to use and navigate with voiceover. >>>> So, depending on which Roborock model you choose to get, things may >>>> read slightly different. For example, when I open the entry for the >>>> Roborock S4 Max and come to the settings option, Voiceover says >>>> "settings." On the other hand, when I choose the Roborock S7 Max V, >>>> which is Roborock's current top of the line model and one that I >>>> would absolutely recommend, the settings option says "possibly games, >>>> more." Once you know that this opens the settings screen for the robot >>>> it works fine. >>>> One other minor quirk about how the app reads, while in the settings >>>> screen, if you turn a setting off, Voiceover says "off," but when you >>>> enable a feature, rather than saying "on," Voiceover says "Open." >>>> Changing the cleaning settings such as the suction power and mop >>>> intensity works fine. >>>> On both the Irobot and Roborock apps, reading the battery level and >>>> robot status works fine. The Irobot app will indicate if the battery >>>> is high, medium or low, where as the Roborock app indicates the >>>> battery level as a percentage. >>>> The next app I will mention is the Eufy Home app. Eufy is a brand >>>> made by Anker which is known for their power banks and battery chargers. >>>> Eufy makes a line of robot vacuums called Robovac. Again, this app >>>> works well with Voiceover. Getting my Robovac X8 connected to my >>>> network worked fine and the controls for starting and stopping the >>>> robot, as well as changing the suction power are completely >>>> accessible. I prefer to run my robots on maximum power, I figure if >>>> the robot has the power available, why not use it for a better clean? >>>> One minor quirk about this app, there is no way that I know of to >>>> read the battery level, you can tell if the robot is charging or fully >>>> charged but that's all. >>>> Now we will move on to the second category. I currently only have one >>>> app in this category, the app is useable but not as easy to use since >>>> many of the buttons are unlabeled. The Trifo app fits this category. >>>> I have the Trifo Lucy pet edition robot and this app is used to >>>> control it. This app uses a different method to set up the network >>>> connection. >>>> With most other robots, you enter your WI-FI network name and >>>> password in to the app and then you connect your phone to a temporary >>>> network that the robot creates and the app uses this to transfer the >>>> network information to it. With the Trifo robots, you enter the >>>> network information and the app creates a QR code that is displayed >>>> on your phone's screen. You hold your phone's screen in front of the >>>> robot and the robot's camera reads the QR code. I was able to get >>>> this to work without sighted help but I had to turn off the screen >>>> curtain feature of Voiceover. This app has a lot of buttons that are >>>> unlabeled so Voiceover just says "button." The most important >>>> buttons, the start and stop cleaning button and the button to return >>>> to the dock are unlabeled as well as the buttons for map management >>>> and the button to change the suction setting. I was able to figure >>>> out what each button does after some experimentation but I definitely >>>> want to contact Trifo about this and hopefully they will label these >>>> buttons appropriately. >>>> Changing the suction to maximum works fine once you get to the right >>>> screen, it's a percentage slider and I set mine to 100 percent for the >>>> highest setting. >>>> Ok, now on to the remaining two apps that I have tried, I had to get >>>> sighted help at different points in order to get these apps to work. >>>> Let's start with the MII home app, this app is used to control >>>> several different robots made by Dreametech and a few other brands. I >>>> have the Dreametech L10 pro, creating an account and connecting the >>>> robot to my network worked fine so again, I'm wondering if the app is >>>> downloading the screens that are displayed from the robot itself once >>>> it's connected, regardless it ends up the same. It's possible to get >>>> in to the settings screen but when toggling options, it reads very >>>> strangely. The check box that you need to double tap on to toggle >>>> each option is after the option description and when you enable it, >>>> voiceover doesn't say anything, when you disable it, voiceover says >>>> "plate." I had to get sighted help to figure this out and I also >>>> needed sighted help to set the suction power to maximum, you can get >>>> in to the cleaning settings screen but Voiceover does not see the >>>> control for changing the suction power at all, apparently it's a >>>> circle with each setting shown as a larger fan, totally nonstandard. >>>> Once everything is set, you can read the battery level and start and >>>> stop cleaning but even with this control you can tell that Voiceover >>>> is guessing at what it is, it's not labeled. When swiping through the >>>> screen, sometimes Voiceover does not say anything. For these reasons I >>>> am considering this robot to be one of the least accessible when using >>>> Voiceover though it does clean well. >>>> The last app I will talk about is the Neabot app used to control the >>>> Neabot Q11, again a very good robot as far as cleaning goes, but this >>>> is the least accessible robot vacuum app I have used. I had to get >>>> sighted help several times. First, creating an account is not >>>> possible without sighted help because there is no way to access the >>>> Register" >>>> item. Voiceover says "don't have an account yet? Register" and it >>>> sees that as one item when it should be two items. Double tapping >>>> does not work so you have to get sighted help to tap on "register" >>>> with Voiceover turned off. After that creating the account works fine >>>> and connecting the robot to the network can be done without sighted >>>> help but once that is done, you really start to see the accessibility >>>> issues. You can read the battery level and the "Start cleaning" >>>> option works fine, but everything else is either completely unlabeled >>>> or even when Voiceover tries to guess what something is, the >>>> descriptions are not very helpful. With lots of patience you can get >>>> in to the main robot settings screen which is where the firmware >>>> update option is, and this also has problems. When there is a >>>> firmware update, Voiceover sees the text describing the update, the >>>> cancel, and the update options all as one item, this should be three. >>>> I was able to update the firmware by turning Voiceover off and >>>> tapping towards the bottom right of the screen but I think I was just >>>> lucky enough to tap in the right place. Also, setting the suction to >>>> maximum required sighted help, Voiceover does not see the control for >>>> changing the suction power at all. I have contacted Neabot about these >>>> issues and never got a response. >>>> So to finish this review, at this time the most accessible robot >>>> vacuum apps I have tried are from Irobot, Roborock and Eufy. All of >>>> these brands are good but Roborock is my favorite because of its >>>> excellent cleaning and navigation. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Christopher (AKA CJ) >>>> Chaltain at Outlook >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf >>>> Of [email protected] >>>> Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2022 2:53 PM >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Subject: RE: Roomba >>>> >>>> Yep >>>> iPhone app is accessible and it can be controlled by Google home or >>>> Alexa. >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf >>>> Of Mary Anne Lynskey >>>> Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2022 1:02 PM >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Subject: Roomba >>>> >>>> Good afternoon everyone. I am curious. Have any of you experience >>>> using a Roomba? I recently ordered one from Amazon which has not >>>> arrived yet. I am wondering if this is a viable option for someone >>>> who is totally blind. 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