The S7 is a great Bot, I don't have that one but it's in their top of the line series, I think you will be very happy with it, for the best cleaning I would suggest always running it on the max setting, it should still be able to clean the house on one charge, Roborock includes a large battery in their bots.
> On Jul 17, 2022, at 9:01 AM, Christopher Chaltain <[email protected]> > wrote: > > We got the S7. We wanted the LIDAR feature and my wife wanted the mop option. > > -- > Christopher (AKA CJ) > Chaltain at Outlook > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Mike > Arrigo > Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2022 6:05 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Roomba > > I'm curious, which Roborock model did you get? They are great, far better > than any Roomba. > >> On Jul 16, 2022, at 9:58 PM, Christopher Chaltain <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> We bought it from Amazon as part of Amazon Prime Days. >> >> I'd say Mike's review was spot on. My sighted wife and I set it up together, >> but based on what I could see, I could have done the setup completely by >> myself, except for maybe finding the wi-fi button on the Roborock. Except >> for identifying the rooms on the map, the app seems completely accessible. >> Looks like once we identify the rooms, I'll be able to send it to a specific >> room to clean with the app or a voice command. I set up the Siri shortcuts, >> so just with voice commands I can start it cleaning, pause it, send it back >> to it's docking station and change the strength of the suction. >> >> We've only run it through the house once, but it sucked up quite a bit of >> dog and cat hair. It was pretty cool to see it navigate each room. Now that >> it's been through the house once, I wonder if it'll be quicker the next >> time, although except for the dining room with all of it's chairs, it seemed >> to be pretty quick and smart. I'm looking forward to having it stay on top >> of the pet hair throughout the week, especially under the bed. I'm also >> hoping it'll help my wife with her allergies. >> >> -- >> Christopher (AKA CJ) >> Chaltain at Outlook >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of >> Kay Malmquist >> Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2022 7:23 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: Roomba >> >> I will be interested in what you think. I also saw Mike's review and >> thought seriously about buying the Roborock. Do you have any >> recommendations as to the best place to buy one? Years ago, I had two >> Roomba's, one for downstairs and one for up. I liked them and miss them for >> the in-between vacuum jobs they did. >> >> Kay Malmquist >> [email protected] >> >> Worrying does not empty tomorrow of its troubles, it empties today of its >> strength. >> Corrie Ten Boom - 1892-1983 - Watchmaker >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Christopher Chaltain" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2022 5:35 PM >> Subject: RE: Roomba >> >> >> A few weeks ago Mike Arrigo <[email protected]> posted the following >> review of several robot vacuum cleaners. I used this myself, and just >> a few minutes ago, we let our Roborock start it's maiden voyage around our >> house. >> >> I remember a while back there was some discussion about the >> accessibility of apps that are used to control robot vacuums. I now >> have a small robot vacuum collection and have tried each brand's app >> so I have an idea about which apps work the best with Voiceover. Some are >> definitely better than others. >> I'm going to group these in to three categories, accessible or mostly >> accessible, that is, everything is well labeled or at least easy to >> use with Voiceover's recognition abilities, useable but not the most >> accessible, meaning you can use the app but some of the controls are >> not labeled and you will have to memorize the order of where they are >> on the screen, and mostly unuseable, that is, you will need sighted >> help to do at least some things in the app since they are impossible >> to do using voiceover. One other thing to note, many robots will map >> your house and let you define rooms or no go zones by drawing on the >> map. Unfortunately there is no way to do that using Voiceover with any >> of these apps and I'm not even sure how that could be made accessible >> since it involves drawing, so your choices are to get sighted help if >> you want to use those features or just let the robot clean the entire place >> each time which is what I do. >> Ok, let's start with the most accessible category, these are in no >> particular order. >> The Irobot home app is used for the Roomba robots and works very well >> with Voiceover. For the most part, everything is well labeled, there >> are a few places where voiceover has to guess at what a control is but >> it does describe those controls well. I had no problems setting up my >> Roomba J7 Plus totally without sighted help. This app is very >> interactive which I like, at times it will display tips and tricks or >> ask you how the robot did on its last run and this is all completely >> accessible. If you decide you want to get a Roomba you will have no trouble >> at all using the app. >> Next up is the Roborock app. As a side note, I think Roborock is one >> of the best, if not the best brand of robot vacuums available, their >> cleaning and navigation is excellent. I discovered something with this >> app, I actually have two different Roborock models and the controls >> read slightly differently depending on which robot you choose to >> control from the home screen. This makes me wonder if the app is >> actually downloading this content from the robot itself. Either way, >> the app is very easy to use and navigate with voiceover. So, depending >> on which Roborock model you choose to get, things may read slightly >> different. For example, when I open the entry for the Roborock S4 Max >> and come to the settings option, Voiceover says "settings." On the >> other hand, when I choose the Roborock S7 Max V, which is Roborock's >> current top of the line model and one that I would absolutely >> recommend, the settings option says "possibly games, more." Once you >> know that this opens the settings screen for the robot it works fine. >> One other minor quirk about how the app reads, while in the settings >> screen, if you turn a setting off, Voiceover says "off," but when you >> enable a feature, rather than saying "on," Voiceover says "Open." Changing >> the cleaning settings such as the suction power and mop intensity works fine. >> On both the Irobot and Roborock apps, reading the battery level and >> robot status works fine. The Irobot app will indicate if the battery >> is high, medium or low, where as the Roborock app indicates the >> battery level as a percentage. >> The next app I will mention is the Eufy Home app. Eufy is a brand made >> by Anker which is known for their power banks and battery chargers. >> Eufy makes a line of robot vacuums called Robovac. Again, this app >> works well with Voiceover. Getting my Robovac X8 connected to my >> network worked fine and the controls for starting and stopping the >> robot, as well as changing the suction power are completely >> accessible. I prefer to run my robots on maximum power, I figure if >> the robot has the power available, why not use it for a better clean? >> One minor quirk about this app, there is no way that I know of to read >> the battery level, you can tell if the robot is charging or fully charged >> but that's all. >> Now we will move on to the second category. I currently only have one >> app in this category, the app is useable but not as easy to use since >> many of the buttons are unlabeled. The Trifo app fits this category. I >> have the Trifo Lucy pet edition robot and this app is used to control >> it. This app uses a different method to set up the network connection. >> With most other robots, you enter your WI-FI network name and password >> in to the app and then you connect your phone to a temporary network >> that the robot creates and the app uses this to transfer the network >> information to it. With the Trifo robots, you enter the network >> information and the app creates a QR code that is displayed on your >> phone's screen. You hold your phone's screen in front of the robot and >> the robot's camera reads the QR code. I was able to get this to work >> without sighted help but I had to turn off the screen curtain feature >> of Voiceover. This app has a lot of buttons that are unlabeled so >> Voiceover just says "button." The most important buttons, the start >> and stop cleaning button and the button to return to the dock are >> unlabeled as well as the buttons for map management and the button to >> change the suction setting. I was able to figure out what each button >> does after some experimentation but I definitely want to contact Trifo >> about this and hopefully they will label these buttons appropriately. >> Changing the suction to maximum works fine once you get to the right screen, >> it's a percentage slider and I set mine to 100 percent for the highest >> setting. >> Ok, now on to the remaining two apps that I have tried, I had to get >> sighted help at different points in order to get these apps to work. >> Let's start with the MII home app, this app is used to control several >> different robots made by Dreametech and a few other brands. I have the >> Dreametech L10 pro, creating an account and connecting the robot to my >> network worked fine so again, I'm wondering if the app is downloading >> the screens that are displayed from the robot itself once it's >> connected, regardless it ends up the same. It's possible to get in to >> the settings screen but when toggling options, it reads very >> strangely. The check box that you need to double tap on to toggle each >> option is after the option description and when you enable it, >> voiceover doesn't say anything, when you disable it, voiceover says >> "plate." I had to get sighted help to figure this out and I also >> needed sighted help to set the suction power to maximum, you can get >> in to the cleaning settings screen but Voiceover does not see the >> control for changing the suction power at all, apparently it's a >> circle with each setting shown as a larger fan, totally nonstandard. >> Once everything is set, you can read the battery level and start and >> stop cleaning but even with this control you can tell that Voiceover >> is guessing at what it is, it's not labeled. When swiping through the >> screen, sometimes Voiceover does not say anything. For these reasons I am >> considering this robot to be one of the least accessible when using >> Voiceover though it does clean well. >> The last app I will talk about is the Neabot app used to control the >> Neabot Q11, again a very good robot as far as cleaning goes, but this >> is the least accessible robot vacuum app I have used. I had to get >> sighted help several times. First, creating an account is not possible >> without sighted help because there is no way to access the Register" >> item. Voiceover says "don't have an account yet? Register" and it sees >> that as one item when it should be two items. Double tapping does not >> work so you have to get sighted help to tap on "register" with >> Voiceover turned off. After that creating the account works fine and >> connecting the robot to the network can be done without sighted help >> but once that is done, you really start to see the accessibility >> issues. You can read the battery level and the "Start cleaning" option >> works fine, but everything else is either completely unlabeled or even >> when Voiceover tries to guess what something is, the descriptions are >> not very helpful. With lots of patience you can get in to the main >> robot settings screen which is where the firmware update option is, >> and this also has problems. When there is a firmware update, Voiceover >> sees the text describing the update, the cancel, and the update >> options all as one item, this should be three. I was able to update >> the firmware by turning Voiceover off and tapping towards the bottom >> right of the screen but I think I was just lucky enough to tap in the >> right place. Also, setting the suction to maximum required sighted >> help, Voiceover does not see the control for changing the suction power at >> all. I have contacted Neabot about these issues and never got a response. >> So to finish this review, at this time the most accessible robot >> vacuum apps I have tried are from Irobot, Roborock and Eufy. All of >> these brands are good but Roborock is my favorite because of its >> excellent cleaning and navigation. >> >> -- >> Christopher (AKA CJ) >> Chaltain at Outlook >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of >> [email protected] >> Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2022 2:53 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: RE: Roomba >> >> Yep >> iPhone app is accessible and it can be controlled by Google home or Alexa. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of >> Mary Anne Lynskey >> Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2022 1:02 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Roomba >> >> Good afternoon everyone. I am curious. Have any of you experience >> using a Roomba? I recently ordered one from Amazon which has not >> arrived yet. I am wondering if this is a viable option for someone who >> is totally blind. 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