I will have to research that one. Thanks for letting all of us know this. Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!

> On Jul 20, 2020, at 10:54 AM, regina alvarado <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
> I got this app yesterday and really like it. However, interesting they do 
> not have a cardinal among the birds. Maybe it's called something other than 
> cardinal? Still exploring and love all the sounds. Not many songbirds near me 
> in FL.
> 
> Reggie Alvarado 
> 
> On Jul 20, 2020, at 10:32 AM, Esther <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> hi, everyone, I use the Chirp! USA app and it's wonderful. Anyway, thought I 
> would put my two cents in. Maybe with inflation it's five cents now. Ha ha! 
> Esther
> 
> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!
> 
>>> On Jul 19, 2020, at 7:59 PM, Donna Casteen <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>> I haven't used the Chirpomatic app in a year. I tried using the app on an 
>> iPhone 7. The recordings were very low in their volume, unless the bird was 
>> very close, like in a tree just above my head. I hope this has been fixed.
>> 
>> Donna
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> Debby,
>>> 
>>> Thanks for your review of this one.  I will give it a try.
>>> 
>>> The Bird Song ID app I have tried also lowers the volume as soon as you tap 
>>> on the tab for recording bird songs, so yes, it would seem it may have 
>>> something to do with the microphone.  Headphones do work fine with this.
>>> 
>>> Pam
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ________________________________________
>>> From: [email protected] [[email protected]] on behalf of 
>>> Debby [[email protected]]
>>> Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2020 2:49 PM
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: RE: Accessible and Accurate Bird Song Identification App
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> In case anyone is interested, I did buy the ChirpOmAtic app. It is 
>>> generally accessible with a couple of caveats. I did not try recording any 
>>> birds because it is a hot muggy day around here.
>>> 
>>> Here are a couple of issues. Here is the biggest one. When you start the 
>>> app Voiceover does not come out of the speaker. It is as though you are on 
>>> a phone call. If you press the home button and come out of the app and go 
>>> back in then voiceover comes out of the speaker. (I did not try with 
>>> headphones to see what would happen.) I am thinking that this happens 
>>> because the app wants to use the microphone, and so it puts any sound on 
>>> the phone to the ear piece. This is fixable, but strange!
>>> 
>>> Most of the controls are fine, but some of them are labeled with words with 
>>> no spaces. For instance on the first page there is a control that is 
>>> labeled “taptorecord.”
>>> 
>>> The app does have a reference section where you can hear various birds. 
>>> This section has a letter index and a search that is accessible and works. 
>>> On the page where you hear the birds songs/calls there is a description of 
>>> the sound just as there is in the “Chirp! Bird Song & calls USA” app. 
>>> However, if you want to read the description of the song/call, you have to 
>>> hunt a bit toward the bottom right of the screen.
>>> 
>>> Take care!
>>> 
>>> Debby
>>> 
>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
>>> Of Debby
>>> Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2020 11:14 AM
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: RE: Accessible and Accurate Bird Song Identification App
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> It looks as though the ChirpOmAtic and the one I suggested “Chirp USA” are 
>>> from the same developer. By the way, I just looked in the app store, and 
>>> the one I recommended is listed as “chirp! Bird songs & calls USA.” I 
>>> looked up what I paid, and it was $3.95 in December, 2016. Because it is on 
>>> my phone, I can’t tell if the price has changed.
>>> 
>>> I think I am going to get the “ChirpOMAtic” and try it out. Although birds 
>>> aren’t really singing as much this time of year in my suburban environment. 
>>> It will be interesting to see how it handles multiple birds.
>>> 
>>> Take care!
>>> 
>>> Debby
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2020 10:18 AM
>>> To: viPhone 📩
>>> Subject: Re: Accessible and Accurate Bird Song Identification App
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
>>> Of Richard Turner
>>> Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2020 10:28 AM
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: RE: Accessible and Accurate Bird Song Identification App
>>> 
>>> I wonder about these apps when you have multiple birds singing at the same 
>>> time.
>>> I’m not sure any of them could be all that accurate.
>>> 
>>> It’s too bad they don’t have a trial period.
>>> Like you Bill, I would not buy an app without knowing it worked with 
>>> VoiceOver at the very least.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
>>> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
>>> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
>>> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - 
>>> Edward Herbert
>>> 
>>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Bill 
>>> Gallik
>>> Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2020 7:18 AM
>>> To: viPhone 📩 <[email protected]>
>>> Subject: Re: Accessible and Accurate Bird Song Identification App
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ************
>>> - Sent from Bill's iPhone 6 (iOS 12.4.8) via Google Mail
>>> I am likewise interested in an app that can identify birds by their calls 
>>> with a reasonable degree of accuracy.  I live in northern Wisconsin and as 
>>> I sit outside listening to the cacauphony of bird calls surrounding me I’d 
>>> like to know which species are so garciously treating me to Nature’s 
>>> symphony.
>>> 
>>> I went to the web site listed by Richard and found an app named ChirpOMatic 
>>> but wonder if it is accessible.  It costs $3.95 and I am sufficiently cheap 
>>> that I do not want to throw away that amount.
>>> 
>>> Can anybody tell me if ChirpOMatic is accessible to a totally blind person?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ************
>>> - Bill from Ino, Wisconsin
>>> - “The early bird may get the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.”
>>> - Contributor Unknown
>>> P.S.
>>> Wow, what an appropriate signature tag the system randomly chose for this 
>>> message.  I swear, I had nothing to do with this signature other than 
>>> adding to my library; I have the Mac randomly selecting signature tags!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jul 18, 2020, at 3:10 PM, Richard Turner 
>>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> If you are wanting an app that will tell you what the bird is from hearing 
>>> the song, here is a review that you may find helpful.
>>> https://lifehacker.com/shazam-for-birds-three-apps-that-recognize-bird-calls-1797955537<https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flifehacker.com%2Fshazam-for-birds-three-apps-that-recognize-bird-calls-1797955537&data=02%7C01%7Cpamela.a.ekstrand.-nd%40disney.com%7C92543840c8294daa424608d82c148533%7C56b731a8a2ac4c32bf6b616810e913c6%7C1%7C0%7C637307813939897703&sdata=CfwBCxLzap2BrgstRh1zCnbS64hImB5roS937HTE3XQ%3D&reserved=0>
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>>> If you want one to look up birds and hear what their song is like plus 
>>> other information, check out the free Audubon app.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
>>> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
>>> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
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>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
>>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> On Behalf Of 
>>> Debby
>>> Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2020 1:04 PM
>>> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
>>> Subject: RE: Accessible and Accurate Bird Song Identification App
>>> 
>>> Hi Pam,
>>> 
>>> First thanks to James for taking the plunge in answering your email. Those 
>>> 26 instances of your email scared me a bit.
>>> 
>>> Anyway, the bird song identification app I use is "Chirp USA." It has a ton 
>>> of birds and includes bird songs as well as calls. Also, there are good 
>>> descriptions of the songs/call and links to other information about the 
>>> bird for the Cornell ornithology site and Wikipedia.
>>> 
>>> Take care!
>>> 
>>> Debby
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of James English
>>> Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2020 3:46 PM
>>> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
>>> Subject: Re: Accessible and Accurate Bird Song Identification App
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I don't know an app but I think your email might be broken as you sent this 
>>> 26 times.
>>> 
>>> - James
>>> 
>>> On 7/18/20, Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND 
>>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> Hi All,
>>> 
>>> Just wondering if anyone has found a good app for identifying birds by
>>> their song?  I have tried some that are not very accessible.  The one
>>> I did find mostly accessible does not seem to be very accurate as it
>>> will identify the same song as belonging to different birds at different 
>>> times.
>>> 
>>> Thanks for any suggestions.
>>> Pam
>>> 
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