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On Mon, Jul 20, 2020, 1:36 AM Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected]> wrote:

> Then don't ever travel to the Philippines or Thailand or most other south
> Asian countries!
>
>
>
> *From:* [email protected] <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of
> *Richard Turner
> *Sent:* Sunday, July 19, 2020 11:59 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* RE: Accessible and Accurate Bird Song Identification App
>
>
>
> Thanks for taking the plunge.
>
> Please report back when you see how it does with live
> recognition/identification.
>
>
>
> I can relate to not wanting to go out in the mugginess.  The couple times
> I have visited places with high humidity, I preferred staying indoors with
> the AC.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Richard
>
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass
> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient
> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not
> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" -
> Edward Herbert
>
>
>
> *From:* [email protected] <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of
> *Debby
> *Sent:* Sunday, July 19, 2020 11:49 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* RE: Accessible and Accurate Bird Song Identification App
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> In case anyone is interested, I did buy the ChirpOmAtic app. It is
> generally accessible with a couple of caveats. I did not try recording any
> birds because it is a hot muggy day around here.
>
>
>
> Here are a couple of issues. Here is the biggest one. When you start the
> app Voiceover does not come out of the speaker. It is as though you are on
> a phone call. If you press the home button and come out of the app and go
> back in then voiceover comes out of the speaker. (I did not try with
> headphones to see what would happen.) I am thinking that this happens
> because the app wants to use the microphone, and so it puts any sound on
> the phone to the ear piece. This is fixable, but strange!
>
>
>
> Most of the controls are fine, but some of them are labeled with words
> with no spaces. For instance on the first page there is a control that is
> labeled “taptorecord.”
>
>
>
> The app does have a reference section where you can hear various birds.
> This section has a letter index and a search that is accessible and works.
> On the page where you hear the birds songs/calls there is a description of
> the sound just as there is in the “Chirp! Bird Song & calls USA” app.
> However, if you want to read the description of the song/call, you have to
> hunt a bit toward the bottom right of the screen.
>
>
>
> Take care!
>
>
>
> Debby
>
>
>
> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]
> <[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *Debby
> *Sent:* Sunday, July 19, 2020 11:14 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* RE: Accessible and Accurate Bird Song Identification App
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> It looks as though the ChirpOmAtic and the one I suggested “Chirp USA” are
> from the same developer. By the way, I just looked in the app store, and
> the one I recommended is listed as “chirp! Bird songs & calls USA.” I
> looked up what I paid, and it was $3.95 in December, 2016. Because it is on
> my phone, I can’t tell if the price has changed.
>
>
>
> *I think I am going to get the “ChirpOMAtic” and try it out. Although
> birds aren’t really singing as much this time of year in my suburban
> environment. It will be interesting to see how it handles multiple birds. *
>
>
>
> *Take care!*
>
>
>
> *Debby*
>
>
>
>
> *Sent:* Sunday, July 19, 2020 10:18 AM
> *To:* viPhone đź“©
> *Subject:* Re: Accessible and Accurate Bird Song Identification App
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]
> <[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *Richard Turner
> *Sent:* Sunday, July 19, 2020 10:28 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* RE: Accessible and Accurate Bird Song Identification App
>
>
>
> I wonder about these apps when you have multiple birds singing at the same
> time.
>
> I’m not sure any of them could be all that accurate.
>
>
>
> It’s too bad they don’t have a trial period.
>
> Like you Bill, I would not buy an app without knowing it worked with
> VoiceOver at the very least.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Richard
>
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass
> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient
> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not
> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" -
> Edward Herbert
>
>
>
> *From:* [email protected] <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of
> *Bill Gallik
> *Sent:* Sunday, July 19, 2020 7:18 AM
> *To:* viPhone đź“© <[email protected]>
> *Subject:* Re: Accessible and Accurate Bird Song Identification App
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ************
>
> - Sent from Bill's iPhone 6 (iOS 12.4.8) via Google Mail
>
> I am likewise interested in an app that can identify birds by their calls
> with a reasonable degree of accuracy.  I live in northern Wisconsin and as
> I sit outside listening to the cacauphony of bird calls surrounding me I’d
> like to know which species are so garciously treating me to Nature’s
> symphony.
>
>
>
> I went to the web site listed by Richard and found an app named
> ChirpOMatic but wonder if it is accessible.  It costs $3.95 and I am
> sufficiently cheap that I do not want to throw away that amount.
>
>
>
> Can anybody tell me if ChirpOMatic is accessible to a totally blind person?
>
>
>
>
> ************
>
> - Bill from Ino, Wisconsin
>
> - “The early bird may get the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.”
>
> - Contributor Unknown
>
> P.S.
>
> Wow, what an appropriate signature tag the system randomly chose for this
> message.  I swear, I had nothing to do with this signature other than
> adding to my library; I have the Mac randomly selecting signature tags!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Jul 18, 2020, at 3:10 PM, Richard Turner <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> If you are wanting an app that will tell you what the bird is from hearing
> the song, here is a review that you may find helpful.
>
> https://lifehacker.com/shazam-for-birds-three-apps-that-recognize-bird-calls-1797955537
> <https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flifehacker.com%2Fshazam-for-birds-three-apps-that-recognize-bird-calls-1797955537&data=02%7C01%7C%7C08b71b3b5fba4db2725008d82c148649%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637307813942421974&sdata=yM%2B%2FVKESYhzLsGcM%2Fp7JX%2B3GYzvYBbBag%2Bp1szD4Nn4%3D&reserved=0>
>
> If you want one to look up birds and hear what their song is like plus
> other information, check out the free Audubon app.
>
>
>
>
> Richard
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass
> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient
> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not
> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" -
> Edward Herbert
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of
> Debby
> Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2020 1:04 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: Accessible and Accurate Bird Song Identification App
>
> Hi Pam,
>
> First thanks to James for taking the plunge in answering your email. Those
> 26 instances of your email scared me a bit.
>
> Anyway, the bird song identification app I use is "Chirp USA." It has a
> ton of birds and includes bird songs as well as calls. Also, there are good
> descriptions of the songs/call and links to other information about the
> bird for the Cornell ornithology site and Wikipedia.
>
> Take care!
>
> Debby
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]
> <[email protected]>] On Behalf Of James English
> Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2020 3:46 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Accessible and Accurate Bird Song Identification App
>
> Hi,
>
> I don't know an app but I think your email might be broken as you sent
> this 26 times.
>
> - James
>
> On 7/18/20, Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> Just wondering if anyone has found a good app for identifying birds by
> their song?  I have tried some that are not very accessible.  The one
> I did find mostly accessible does not seem to be very accurate as it
> will identify the same song as belonging to different birds at different
> times.
>
> Thanks for any suggestions.
> Pam
>
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